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Discussion on: Black Lives Matter

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8ucik

I do strongly agree with you, but I do have some concerns about. Let me tell this using some stories which happened in recent years but before covid started. My wife is an accountant in a big company in my country. The delegates from other countries sometimes visit them. They had people from US. Mostly black people (don't want to sound as racist, cause I don't know what is the best word to use here instead, I'm sorry if it sounds wrong ). arrived. They had some meetings, coffee and cookies stuff and then a big party before they were going back home. There was a guy hitting to my wife - she responded: "sorry I can't go out with you I have a husband and I am not interested, sorry." Then he started hitting another girl and another. I know all of those colleagues of my wife and they all are engaged or married. But what has happened next was thrilling. He started to answer "bacause I'm black!?". This was something that got the ladies scared. The guy was angry and was really showing how angry he is. I was close by and stood up to him and told him to calm down I remember saying: "Sorry, please call down. We are normal people your really want to try with people who have families, kids, pets and babies?". The guy did calm down had a tea which we suggested to him and he talked with us slowly and then when I asked him to - he did apologize to those women he offended. This is how humans work and can't be changed but the thing with "bacause I'm black" is something I don't understand. If we put aside this talk then looking at others makes no difference in skin colour, or looks. I have asked several people with different skin or looks if they were to point why people are attacking them they would respond skin colour or national stuff. But looking at this example this is not true. They are people which act like everybody else and that is the thing people need to understand.

Another story from a good friend of mine. He was visiting the US. He met a girl a black girl and got a little close to staying there bacause of her. Her parents said bad things to him, her friends liked him, but they couldn't live there why? Because he was white. That is the only reason. Non of them looked at him because of the character he had but because he was white. I know that they are now in Netherlands ,but a bad taste stays.

It does not matter if your Black, White, Indian, Asian or Hindi. The problem is in people who are connected to such syntax and naming convention.

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leob • Edited

I see what you mean about the guy who got rejected and said "because I'm black". I think it shows how much they have the feeling that they're always being discriminated against.

The other example shows that they are also able discriminate themselves ... of course it's a natural tendency of people to discriminate - we tend to like people who are "just like us" - same race, same gender, same age, same sexual orientation (straight/gay etc), same religion, and so on. Like attracts like, "outsiders" beyond our 'group' are often looked upon with suspicion ... "group think", probably we all do it even when we don't acknowledge or realize it.

But that's about personal behaviors and prejudices - I think that the big issue that we're talking about right now (with George Floyd and Black Lives Matter and so on) is not personal behavior but systemic racism, so structures and mechanisms built into society and into organizations (for instance the police force). I think that's what is at stake right now, not so much the racist mindset or attitude of individual people.

Regarding the discussion about whether this is an "American problem" or a 'world problem', in principle it's the latter but the US has a unique history with slavery, civil war, Jim Crow laws (segregation) and so on, which makes the problem probably a bit bigger and more urgent there.

So yes, I understand your remarks about the behavior of those individuals (which you rightfully criticize), but I think that's not the point of the demonstrations or of the Black Lives Matter movement - their point is that "the system" is wrong.