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Josh Sommer • Edited

Angular is not dying.

A) the State of Javascript survey its self is extremely unscientific.

B) the survey is conflating Angular.JS and Angular together which is confusing and creating a misleading numbers. Since they are essentially two different frameworks, sharing a name and some concepts only. AngularJS is in LTS and no longer being actively developed. once again, it's not a scientific survey by any means.

C) Npm download numbers are not indicating that Angular dying, much like React and Vue the numbers are trending upward.

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Hugo Torzuoli Author

I agree with your first two points, but as said, it's a survey intended to developers. On 20,000 developers, more than 60% don't want to use Angular (and AngularJS?) again, isn't it frightening for the future of the framework ?

About third point, I don't know, I never check NPM downloads.

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Michael De Abreu

That's a fair point actually. Its common to assume that Angular === AngularJS, and if you ask me I would never use AngularJS again. I don't think Angular is near of being dead.

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Hugo Torzuoli Author

I don't assume Angular === AngularJS, framework are totally different! Given that AngularJS won't receive any major update, I think we have to assume that survey talk about Angular only.

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Michael De Abreu

I wouldn't be so sure about it. I understand that it was the intention of the survey, but it's actually a good point to think that people thought it includes AngularJS as well.

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Josh Sommer

I agree It's more or less a testament to how bad the Angular branding has been handled along with just how bad this "survey" has been conducted.

But I'm done feeding the click bate titles, like this one. Are their jobs looking for Angular Developers Yes, in my area a quick job search showed up just as must if not more than React.

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Tayamba Mwanza

But what if most of those developers are mostly react developers that have just heard of angular and not used it in any meaningful way?

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Jorge Renteral • Edited

Developers are really stubborn, sometimes we are a lot bigot, and we tend to stigmatize things outta very little motifs, one of the more regular is: the lack of time to learn technologies other than the learned ones. I don't know but there is a very small group of developers I trust in, and one of them, Jeff Delaney, is too avocated to Angular, I trust more in him than in 12,000 developers I don't know.