Well, the question was why php gets a bad rep. Think about what you just said. Roadrunner aside, you need to go to third party tools just to get things running.
Nobody ever said there's no way, I also listed some, you did and so on. But there's a lot of legacy out there, lots of inconsistencies in the language and despite all the new stuff that's nice and all, you also need to be in a position to use it.
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Well, the question was why php gets a bad rep. Think about what you just said. Roadrunner aside, you need to go to third party tools just to get things running.
Nobody ever said there's no way, I also listed some, you did and so on. But there's a lot of legacy out there, lots of inconsistencies in the language and despite all the new stuff that's nice and all, you also need to be in a position to use it.