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Andrew Brown 🇨🇦

You aren't deceiving employers. You are hacking the gatekeepers such as ML tools, HR and in-house or third-party recruiters whose job is to filter out candidates. They filter candidates based on profiling techniques that do not give merit or deep consideration to the individual.

I have been contracted to build ML/AI hiring tools which make predictions, so I have powerful insight here. A prediction that the machine could make could be that holding an FCC certification equates to junior.

The gatekeepers who uses said hiring tools are told by management to only look at senior talent.

Management is asking for senior talent to do junior work. Why? Because boot camps flooded the market with graduates passing them off as junior talent. Companies were disappointed with the results of this talent and then said only hire senior for now on.

Boot camps have improved, but impressions have been made, and that is part of the story why it can be tough to find a job even when you're qualified.

If you're from a small town, then these rules may not apply, but small town jobs don't usually pay what people hope. I'm from a small town, and it saddens me that I cannot operate in one and have to stay close to a large city to future proof my career.

I started getting AWS Certified because I saw in San Franciso they started asking it as a nice to have or a prerequisite to get jobs. Toronto is always a year or two behind, but whatever happens, there will happen here. Many San Fran companies use Toronto as their second base of operations because talent is still high quality, but costs are low.
Toronto has lots of AI talent since the creator of AI is from Toronto. Most startups are data-driven, so that's another win. Toronto is an international city where a very high percentage of the population was not born in Canada. It's common for international talent to use Toronto as a stepping stone to the states. If your talent is flowing through Toronto, it makes sense to capture the talent there where the costs will be lower.

I have two babies and a host of responsibilities; my feelings and thoughts on fairness are far down on my list of things to be concerned about.

Being proud doesn't pay the bills.

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Joel-Howard • Edited

You haven't convinced me that employers in general share your opinion that it's better to not show off a FCC certificate. A certificate indicates hundreds of hours of effort. And if you get a certificate then you can showcase the projects you did as a requirement for that certificate. Also FCC is very well known and has a good reputation.

Another commenter said their LinkedIn profile views went up after they got FCC certificates.

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Andrew Brown 🇨🇦 • Edited

Most people share their certificates within their feed and that's is a means of views.
Views don't matter. Getting offers does.