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I can't disagree with this direction completely, but I'd like to put in a word as food for thought.
Let's say, I build out an "Auth" module (as in authentication module, but what I'm about to write could be taken in the context with any kind of module) and I realize it is fairly standard for all of my apps and I'd like to make it its own library. This suggested split up of API logic from the modules would mean I couldn't easily pull out my Auth Module to make it a library. It is coupled strongly to the overall app via file structure.
So, I see DDD in a different light with Nest. The parts that make up the API (controllers or resolvers with GraphQL) should be part of each module. This is what Nest prescribes too. Why? Because it also simplifies the next step of scaling up to microservices. Aha! :D
I see each module like their own little DDD onions, because Nest basically takes the little onions (the modules) and aggregates them into a big DDD onion via it's module system. With the suggested methodology here, you are negating that big DDD onion abstraction Nest provides.
Just sayin. :)
Scott
Love the mini DDD onion analogy! I have a project I'm working on that we do exactly this. Each feature "onion layers" maintains its own persistence model. The one thing I find frustrating is finding a way to cleanly exchange services between the mini onion layers to share data that each other references. Orders to Products for example.
Many features need to reference and use each other's data to build DTOs specifically for GraphQL. This gets scary because it could introduce circular dependencies between modules. I know the Nestjs docs talk about how to resolve this with the DI but I'm not satisfied. Having to inject a module to use a service means one module has to "know" something about the other module. In microservices this could be solved by passing Events on a bus or Message Queue but within a monolith that seems unnecessary since it's all running in one process. Wondering if anyone has ideas about using service between modules without creating a hard dependency by injecting the module. That way it can be split into a microservices later with minimal effort if one feature needs to scale more than another. Maybe a pattern doesn't exist unless it's split into microservices, events, and RPCs? 🤔 The only thing I could think (which I hate) is to duplicate domain objects to share access to the data. Yuk
@jbool24 - If you think about it, should the modules really be sharing DTO definitions? I personally don't think so. The DTOs should be defined locally/ independently to the module itself, IMHO. So, with that said, problem one is resolved, I believe(?).
I'm not totally sure what you mean with using DI to resolve the DTO sharing issue. It doesn't solve that if you ask me or rather it shouldn't. DI is for sharing implementations of other services (providers) between other services. And yes, you are right, it is a form of coupling and differs from microservices (which has coupling too, but in a different form).
So, you do get on to a problem I'm also looking to solve. How to build a monolithic system, which can be easily upgraded or "scaled" to microservices and I agree, using DI isn't one of them.
As I see it, this is where CQRS, or rather the "buses" it offers, could come into play. You could use that as the basic interface for both the monolithic modules and microservice architectures, hiding or rather abstracting away the actual communication method (i.e. message broker, pub-sub, internal bus ala rxjs, etc.). Thing is though, for a very small team or a single dev, creating this event driven system will seem like a ton of verbosity. Nest's own modules system can seem like a lot of verbosity at first sight.
I'm still in the design phase on what to do here. If you have any other ideas along on how to abstract the communication between services (which is what Nest's DI system is also doing, as you mention), please let me know. DI is great for a monolith, but doesn't afford the right abstraction to move modules to their own microservices easily. Modules sort of help, because they make you think in a services kind of way, but they only get us half the way there, so to speak. I wish Nest would have been a bit more opinionated in this respect. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Scott
I actually think I solved the design today. At least for the short term that’s going to work for me. Even though the docs warn against global modules I decided that only my feature modules would be decorated with @Global and only “exports” a public service from the module that contains all the public use-case handlers. This way the only reference between bounded contexts of feature modules are in the application layer as globally resolvable injected services to use-cases. Make sense? This way in the future, as I pick apart the features into separate microservices (if ever), all I need to change per module is a remote service definition to satisfy that injection (whether its RPC or http or whatever the now remote service is). Not sure if I articulated that well but the approach frees up importing features to other features while its a monolith. That was the biggest issue for me because it caused circular dependencies that I had to resolve with ModuleRef and forward referencing and that just felt wrong.
Also, I agree about the verbosity (especially as a solo dev) but I do truly believe that your future self will appreciate the the upfront effort keeping things tidy. There is a tendency with JS project for devs to fall back on implementing direct to libraries because they do so much magic for us (looking at you mongoose 😘). And while that’s great for getting a prototype running quickly, it becomes horrible really fast as tech debt adds up and sometimes libraries just stop being supported 😱 This one project I was worked on had extremely tight deadlines so we decided to implement all our domain logic on mongoose models cause, hey it’s all there (validation, virtuals, methods, statics!!, hooks) So we got it running in in time, but later it almost brought down the entire startup when we were told we HAD to switch to a relational DB for various reasons.
That’s where I struggle now when the frameworks try to be too clever for us. I don’t want to always implement from scratch so frameworks help BUT I remember the pain from that experience and I force myself to do the extra work (or at least have a plan) where time constraints allow.
Hey Scott, interesting take and definitley one we made the conscious decision to move away from.
By having your project split into their own modules definitley makes moving parts into packages and eventually into a micro-service architecture easier. However, your domain (the problem you are trying to solve) becomes coupled to the wider module. The domain shouldn't care for anything other than the logic for solving the problem and suddenly our domain gets muddied with controllers, dtos and repositories, when in fact our domain module should be concerned with solving problems.
As the domain is the problem solving element of the code, it is the most important part of the code-base and it is vital to keep that as "pure" as possible. As mentioned in the post, ideally, you should be able to lift the domain from the code and nothing extra should come with it.
I also have no plans to move any of my code into a micro service architecture :) But that is personal preference.
Hi Harry,
I guess we'll have to agree to sort of disagree. But, I'll leave you with a couple more thoughts.
You are right about the business logic being specific to solve the business problem and it needing its specific place in code. And modules allow for that. Yet, I feel it can't also mean the "plumbing" of the "how the code works" should also be forgotten or changed in a way just to make this "put the business logic in it's own special place" concept possible. If the dev team realize that there is this plumbing around the module, where is that "muddying up the domain"? In fact, if the plumbing also needs work, because the domain problem changes, which I think you can agree does happen, all the code is right there in the module together with the business logic and is thus, easier to reason about and change, no searching for matching plumbing code at all.
If you get new engineers who have worked with Nest before, they will understand the "Nest way" at first sight. If you change the code structure away from Nest's default structure, you add cognitive load thus, slowing down their ability to make changes/ maintain the code.
Lastly, if you decide you want to have different programs (not just microservices) and realize some of the code (the modules) are interchangeable (i.e. plugins), the modules system affords this as designed. If you pull the little onions apart to create your own big onion, it is truly the ugly monolith (with all disadvantages) Nest tries its best to avoid.
Scott
Indeed. You have a little onion in each nest module. Important also to logically map modules to DDD bounded contexts rather than entities or features. The idea is each nest module is a potential microservice. For the current monolith, modules can then communicate via the eventbus. In a future microservices architecture, that will be RabbitMQ or any out of process messaging system
Entities yes, but I'd add, a module should be a feature in the end.
You may make a "combining DDD" module holding multiple feature modules. And a feature module might even be broken down into sub-modules to break it out into sub-features for development sanity's sake. But, for sure the core content of most modules should be a feature or a process.
Scott
I'm agree. I believe that can abstract some process, specifically's services using patterns design, for to give each function a unique responsability.
Afternoon chaps, @guledali , @maxhampton . I've just uploaded an example repository here. Hope it covers enough of your interest, please hit me with more questions if you've got them.
FYI that repo isn't prod ready, you will need to spend some time tweaking passport and mongoose to get the DB working. Figured it would suffice but happy to expand it further if you want :)
Thanks Harry, the repository is definitely interesting to browse through, and clears up some of my confusion. It's leading me down the road of looking into options for interface injection in Nest.
Kind of a follow up question, I still see the domain layer taking on dependencies from higher levels, namely the UserRepositoryModule. Is this mainly to get around dependency injection limitations?
I'm not a stickler for 100% pure DDD, the code is still very well segmented. I am curious, though, if this is a concession your team made and the rationale behind bringing a persistence layer dependency into the domain layer. Did you consider alternate approaches to keep the Domain layer dependency free?
Hey Max. When we started this process we looked into interface injection but we came up short. For us to have any communication with our persistence layer we had to introduce the user repository dependency into the
UserModule
.We decided that our domain layer would:
We figured this was adequate for our needs.
Do let me know how you get on and if you are able to overcome this.
Hey Max, so it turns you actually can do interface injection (somewhat) with Nest.js.
A lovely fellow on the GitHub repo submitted a PR detailing just that:
github.com/hbendix/domain-driven-n...
I will update the blog post when I get a chance.
Thank you, I'm also researching about this topic in particular. I have a question regarding your statement:
I can follow this statement easily with create, findOne, update, delete API. But I cant do it with findAll API since I always have to use some sort of object query from persistence layer/library:
You can see that if the domain layer want to use this method, it has to import some interfaces from mongoose, making it library dependent. Is there a way to avoid this? Thank you.
@bendix I discussed the article with some co-workers yesterday, very interesting do see someone applying DDD to nestjs.
One thing while reading this, here is a quote that kept me curious
In nestjs, they recommend organising your application components through modules. Ideally you would have multiple feature modules and each encapsulating it's own business-domain(shoppingcart -> entity, service, controller, spec and dto).
This something that they even state in nestjs docs
You said the problem you and your team ran into was having too much code in the services file, was this the only drawback?
Hey @guledali , ultimately it came down to poor handling in the early stages of the development. We had neglected to place strict boundaries around our domain logic so something like a
user.service
encapsulated a far too large chunk of user logic. We should've spilt the code out into further sub-modules to avoid this.I think the suggested route recommended by Nest.js definitely works. We find following this DDD approach it keeps clear distinctions between all the different processes our server goes through. (endpoints, business/domain logic, data access etc) Whereas following the typical Angular structure it puts more emphasis on each microservice of your server.
I think there are positives and negatives to both.
I'm having trouble understanding from this post how you've kept database dependencies out of the Domain layer. If UserEntity is in the Domain layer, and extends the Mongo Document type, doesn't that bring an external dependency on Mongo into the Domain?
Would love to browse a repository to take a look at how this is set up in full, I'm working on a project now where we're trying to do something very similar following DDD in NestJS.
Apologies, still getting used to this blogging malarkey! I have some spare time tomorrow will get something up for you to look at, Max.
Cool~,Harry. Inspired by your sharing, I created an equally good code structure
@bendix Do you have any github repo containing samples on this?
hey guledali, I can upload a repository this weekend for you :-)
Having User entity in the context of the DDD stands in contrary to the DDD itself