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Discussion on: Implementing SOLID and the onion architecture in Node.js with TypeScript and InversifyJS

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Bojan Markovic

I can agree that if you are used to that way of working and actually enjoy it (personally I'm a J2EE refugee and enjoy the fact that I've left that world of pain), sure, have a blast.

But the thing is that almost every meaningful feature in this approach already has a simpler, more streamlined and more idiomatic alternative in Javascript.

For example, DI is useful for testing. But there are testing-oriented DI implementations for JavaScript that do it much nicer than the square-peg-round-hole approaches like InversifyJS. I'm talking SinonJS, Testdouble.js and Steal.js.

There are numerous AOP solutions for JavaScript like Aspect.js or Meld that are both simpler and more idiomatic than DI inception based ones and things like Express' Debug clearly demonstrate that where AOP is needed it can be added without needless OOP overengineering and it's actually the anyithing-goes, dynamic nature of the language/runtime that massively helps in this regard (higher order functions alone make a world of difference).

In actuality an API is a contract. OO interfaces are really just one way to go about them and not necessarily a better one. But as IDE support is a given using interfaces, I can imagine circumstances where that might be preferable to documenting an API or adhering to agreements, but IRL I've never run across such a situation, yet I've dealt with incredibly slow progress and numerous pain-points in OO-heavy codebases using these patterns (despite working with stellar engineers).

I'm not even interested in going into a debate on typing. The thing is that there are no conclusive proofs that types reduce bugs at all (but abandoning OOP for functional programming apparently does), and one can sprinkle Typescript or native type annotations where one finds them needed without full-on commitment (where lack of strict types has actually helped dynamic languages and JSON to flourish in this world of distributed software and fast-changing APIs).

The "without the need to implement a factory" and "generating UML diagrams" bits in your comment do say a lot too.

Just my 2c.

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Derek Branizor

History lesson...Microsoft Windows is built as a bundle of exposed API's -- unlike linux with text config files -- and they caused immense pain in the 90's by breaking their bogus contracts. So I beg to differ, API's are not real contracts. In fact I'm sure the heinous behavior of Microsoft's APIs were one of the reasons Java made interfaces a big part of its paradigm.