If you are a developer, you probably have seen lots of endless discussions and arguments in internet forums, blog comments sections or social netwo...
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree at all. When it comes to programs being shipped to the user, of course it matters if the user has to download an interpreter or JIT manually! Grandma won't know how to do that! And even if you make a script that installs it for them, the people who already have it installed might then get multiple versions installed (just like when Steam tries to install Visual C++ in Windows).
I won't go into details on the Electron problem, because I've ranted about it waaaay too many times. But I want you to know that if I filter running applications by CPU in htop, the Electron applications are always on the first page, often 4-5th listed. Sometimes even more than my browser - Firefox! I would very much enjoy if Discord and Mattermost were written for GTK+ instead of just being a copy pasted version of their web client.
When it comes to passions of the heart, I think there will always be war :D ..... I get the gist of what you're saying though. I think that many of us, regardless of topic, welcome constructive debate that is backed up by fact. Unfortunately, too often it does turn out into a war where it becomes more about the entities that created the language than the language itself. I myself have had to endure countless criticism for programming in C# because it comes from microsoft. Of course there is no other organization out there that has committed any anti-trust violations or other crimes against humanity. Perhaps I should stop using React in light of recent events relating to facebook ;) Thanks for sharing your opinion!