Maybe your SO experience just happens to be with tags that are overwhelmingly watched by unpleasant people, in which case I'd blame the community of that specific technology and not SO as a whole.
Again, I was a flag reviewer for over a year. Nope. It was site-wide.
None of those are visible on SO unless you specifically choose to display them.
Doesn't affect being downvoted for being a poor black college student. (True story.) Those downvotes were never reversed.
Either way, I have yet to see a good question or answer being down-voted for any of those reasons. But then again, I don't follow the python or C++ tags.
Spend a year in the review queues, and then we'll talk.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure SO has more users than dev. But maybe you're saying that deb has more smart people proportionally?
I'm saying I've encountered more, not that there are more or less. I was addressing the claim that DEV lacks experienced developers.
It's a question that can be answered in two or three paragraphs and 20 or 30 lines of example code to underline the theory. Why write a whole article, when the Q&A format of SO is much better suited for this sort of thing?
Have you seen some of the top articles here on DEV?
This changes however, when the question is asked very rudely.
I am not talking about rudely asked questions. I've flagged plenty of those myself.
Long story short, that was an admirable effort at a strawman argument, but your primary mistake was relying on the assumption that I was just inexperienced with StackOverflow outside a couple of tags. You missed the whole "I worked the review queues for over a year" part, which renders most your points ridiculous.
But then, this is the same response that these concerns get on Meta. The victims and the observers of the toxicity are required to build a Federal case to prove that their experience is somehow valid, but the guilty parties and the This Is Fine-ers enjoy default benefit of the doubt, despite any evidence presented. There's excuses for allllll the garbage. Always is.
And it will never change, unfortunately, because the above is the majority of StackOverflow elite attitudes, and it's why the toxicity persists there. It's like saying "I haven't PERSONALLY experienced much of the toxicity. You must be at fault, partly or completely, or else you're just in a bubble. Our playground is nice, as long as you play by our rules."
Just further evidence that we need to lock-archive the entire StackOverflow community and start over. It failed.
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Again, I was a flag reviewer for over a year. Nope. It was site-wide.
Doesn't affect being downvoted for being a poor black college student. (True story.) Those downvotes were never reversed.
Spend a year in the review queues, and then we'll talk.
I'm saying I've encountered more, not that there are more or less. I was addressing the claim that DEV lacks experienced developers.
Have you seen some of the top articles here on DEV?
I am not talking about rudely asked questions. I've flagged plenty of those myself.
Long story short, that was an admirable effort at a strawman argument, but your primary mistake was relying on the assumption that I was just inexperienced with StackOverflow outside a couple of tags. You missed the whole "I worked the review queues for over a year" part, which renders most your points ridiculous.
But then, this is the same response that these concerns get on Meta. The victims and the observers of the toxicity are required to build a Federal case to prove that their experience is somehow valid, but the guilty parties and the This Is Fine-ers enjoy default benefit of the doubt, despite any evidence presented. There's excuses for allllll the garbage. Always is.
And it will never change, unfortunately, because the above is the majority of StackOverflow elite attitudes, and it's why the toxicity persists there. It's like saying "I haven't PERSONALLY experienced much of the toxicity. You must be at fault, partly or completely, or else you're just in a bubble. Our playground is nice, as long as you play by our rules."
Just further evidence that we need to lock-archive the entire StackOverflow community and start over. It failed.