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Danny Engelman • Edited

Does React have a future?

  • The very interesting truth is Facebook has no Browser,
    and is not a core member of the WHATWG.

  • And since 2019, the WHATWG;
    read: Google, Apple, Microsoft , Mozilla are in control of what runs in the Browser;
    when the W3C handed them the keys: techxplore.com/news/2019-06-w3c-wh...

  • The WHATWG is by-invitation-only;
    will Google, Apple, Microsoft and Mozilla invite Facebook?

  • Is React the new Flash?

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Benny Powers 🇮🇱🇨🇦

A better question is whether Facebook even wants to be on the WHATWG

and an even better question is whether anyone outside of Facebook wants them on the WHATWG

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peerreynders • Edited

Just to note that Facebook started contributing to the Web API:

Whether or not that means that the fundamental tension between Facebook and the web is shifting - I don't know … but I somehow doubt it. It's more likely a feature that has a particularly high value from React's perspective to make it worth the effort to contribute.

He inferred that Google's deep ties to the web (and standards bodies) make the web, as a platform, a risk that Facebook does not want to be exposed to. He says that React is a step toward abstracting away the browser.

A Different Kind of War

So the engineers at Facebook in a stroke of maniacal genius said “to hell with the W3C and to hell with best practices!” and decided to completely abstract away the browser

Modern Web Development
The Web of Native Apps II: Google and Facebook

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Benny Powers 🇮🇱🇨🇦

It's more likely a feature that has a particularly high value from React's perspective to make it worth the effort to contribute.

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Danny Engelman • Edited

Great blogs, but... techies only look at technology.
Sure, I am a techie too, and bashed React in my latest Dev.to post.

But foremost, in the WHATWG, and effectivly on Web Components,
I see 4 companies working together. And getting better at it, every feature...
Something the like I have never seen in my 31 Internet years.

If you follow the WICG discussions, do not only read the what,
read between the lines, how engineers from those 4 companies, communicate.

You can't but wonder... would this cooperation have been possible with Jobs at the helm...

Now it is up to Google to stop pushing their developments, and focus on joint efforts only.

AMP should have been a good learning Lit (in its current its-a-Google-party form) has no future.

We want a good BaseClass in the Browser, not one we have to load.

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