Don't worry, I'm fine. Thank you for your concern.
You say that I would need to call a software architect "not a programmer" by my definition. I agree. A software architect is not a programmer, though they may occasionally do programming tasks and have probably worked as a programmer at some point.
Programmers do use HTML and CSS and SQL. A person who only knows SQL is not a programmer though - they are likely a DBA or data engineer or something like that. Knowing HTML and CSS on their own is not a particularly useful skillset without JavaScript - instead of being disingenuous with people to farm likes on a website, maybe you should have spent your time writing an article to introduce a beginner to JavaScript.
Like you say - the title of "programmer" isn't something prestigious or difficult to obtain, so why the need for this article to begin with? It seems like you are the one who is placing unneeded emphasis on this word. It is not cruel to say that someone is not a carpenter even if they know how to use a hammer and saw - despite these being tools that carpenters also use.
I would not call myself a systems administrator because I know how to set up a tomcat server.
Working with Web Technologies since ~20 years now and am seeking for a new challenge ever since. 😍
FinTech | Lead Developer @ Debtvision
Previously: FE Lead @ Mercedes-Benz.io
A tl;dr response to your last comment is: It shows that for a specific reason you want to define the term "being a programmier" differently in what all of my previous companies did or what a big part of literature does.
That's fine and up to you. But it's nothing that makes my blog post wrong/falsy. And this is the crucial point for me here. You were stating your opinion on this with the saying "my post should be removed" which is nothing but toxicness honestly. Not constructive, not fact-based.
Even if you were primarily creating templates with HTML/CSS you wouldn't be downgraded in ANY of the companies I worked with as "not being a programmer" simply because you are on the "programmers track" and again: Because literature uses these terms interchangeably even though HTML clearly is a declarative language. Your carpenter+hammer sample lacks a bit of realism since most definitely you'd call yourself a carpenter if you are starting out as a carpenter even if your knowledge up to this very point is limited to using a hammer.
Those are my final words to it and I still wish you a nice day and I hope that for any future comments also on other people you try to be more constructive and helpful than destructive because this is what especially younger people or tech-newbies will drastically demotivate.
Your post contributes nothing besides feel-good nonsense. That is why it should be removed.
To anyone reading this - yes, if all you want is to be able to call yourself a programmer in your head, feel free to if all you know is HTML/CSS. While you're at it, take a statistics class and call yourself a machine learning engineer, and take a whittling class and call yourself a carpenter.
If you actually want to get a job as a programmer, I would recommend getting a working knowledge of a programming language, and potentially start by looking at one of the better articles on this site. If all you've written in a programming language is a hello world - then yes, you are a programmer. Keep on with it if it is interesting to you.
And if you, OP, read this comment, then I want you to know that it is not my purpose here to be constructive, helpful, or even agreeable toward you - I only hope to enlighten others that this is not a realistic point of view that you hold.
Working with Web Technologies since ~20 years now and am seeking for a new challenge ever since. 😍
FinTech | Lead Developer @ Debtvision
Previously: FE Lead @ Mercedes-Benz.io
Don't worry, I'm fine. Thank you for your concern.
You say that I would need to call a software architect "not a programmer" by my definition. I agree. A software architect is not a programmer, though they may occasionally do programming tasks and have probably worked as a programmer at some point.
Programmers do use HTML and CSS and SQL. A person who only knows SQL is not a programmer though - they are likely a DBA or data engineer or something like that. Knowing HTML and CSS on their own is not a particularly useful skillset without JavaScript - instead of being disingenuous with people to farm likes on a website, maybe you should have spent your time writing an article to introduce a beginner to JavaScript.
Like you say - the title of "programmer" isn't something prestigious or difficult to obtain, so why the need for this article to begin with? It seems like you are the one who is placing unneeded emphasis on this word. It is not cruel to say that someone is not a carpenter even if they know how to use a hammer and saw - despite these being tools that carpenters also use.
I would not call myself a systems administrator because I know how to set up a tomcat server.
A tl;dr response to your last comment is: It shows that for a specific reason you want to define the term "being a programmier" differently in what all of my previous companies did or what a big part of literature does.
That's fine and up to you. But it's nothing that makes my blog post wrong/falsy. And this is the crucial point for me here. You were stating your opinion on this with the saying "my post should be removed" which is nothing but toxicness honestly. Not constructive, not fact-based.
Even if you were primarily creating templates with HTML/CSS you wouldn't be downgraded in ANY of the companies I worked with as "not being a programmer" simply because you are on the "programmers track" and again: Because literature uses these terms interchangeably even though HTML clearly is a declarative language. Your carpenter+hammer sample lacks a bit of realism since most definitely you'd call yourself a carpenter if you are starting out as a carpenter even if your knowledge up to this very point is limited to using a hammer.
Those are my final words to it and I still wish you a nice day and I hope that for any future comments also on other people you try to be more constructive and helpful than destructive because this is what especially younger people or tech-newbies will drastically demotivate.
Your post contributes nothing besides feel-good nonsense. That is why it should be removed.
To anyone reading this - yes, if all you want is to be able to call yourself a programmer in your head, feel free to if all you know is HTML/CSS. While you're at it, take a statistics class and call yourself a machine learning engineer, and take a whittling class and call yourself a carpenter.
If you actually want to get a job as a programmer, I would recommend getting a working knowledge of a programming language, and potentially start by looking at one of the better articles on this site. If all you've written in a programming language is a hello world - then yes, you are a programmer. Keep on with it if it is interesting to you.
And if you, OP, read this comment, then I want you to know that it is not my purpose here to be constructive, helpful, or even agreeable toward you - I only hope to enlighten others that this is not a realistic point of view that you hold.
Thanks.