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Davyd McColl • Edited

I've been using Firefox as my daily driver (Nightly on my dev machine, Beta on my Gentoo machine, since there are no easily available nightly Gentoo ebuilds that I've found -- I wouldn't even mind the build time -- would just cron it... but I digress) since about... well, forever! I'm an advocate of Firefox to anyone who is within earshot (:

For a very short while, I preferred Chrome's dev tools -- around the time when FireBug was the best tooling you could get in Firefox, there were well-known paths I could take to make it take down all of Firefox. Now, I'd much rather be in Firefox-land! Glad you're still enjoying it.

Like all things, browsers are tools for a task, and, like all things, they can suck in their own special ways. For instance, Nightly, which is totally rad and nowhere near as unstable as you might think it would be, exposes the upcoming security models first, so I'm finding places where secure cookies aren't being handled properly because we aren't setting SameSite, so Firefox is assuming Lax (which Chrome will do in 80, too, so it's coming to everyone).

I really appreciate Mozilla's approach to the web and their commitment to protecting the user, unlike Google's commitment to treat you as a commodity. Sure, there are "de-googled" variants of Chrome (eg the upstream Chromium, or Edge -- which, honestly, is what I use now when I want to test in a Chrome renderer). But even Chromium comes bundled with a lot of 3rd-party crapware -- the source tarball on Gentoo is well over 400mb large and a large portion of that is stuff that honestly shouldn't be baked direct into the browser (like screen sharing -- that should be an extension!)