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Ghost • Edited

(warning, strong opinions ahead and a high irony content)

Yea, my all passwords are pass1234 and nothing bad has happened to me, so I guess it's a good idea; I don't lock my door either, my neighbors have been robbed but no me so why should I care; after WWII nobody has used nuclear weapons so what's the big deal, let's build more of those and don't start with pollution, it hasn't killed us all why care about that?, also all the hype about abuse against women, gay people and non-white people; I'm either so why should I care... (read with utmost ironic tone please)

I have nothing to hide and if you want to track me, cool

So what porn do you like?, how do your wife like sex better?, any hereditary deceases in your family? what about your kids? we may want to profile those to see if we want to ensure you. Why don't you post your kids pictures, why not your address? your kids school? nothing to "hide" right.

I have nothing to hide and if you want to track me, cool

I'm not black either so if you want to harass them, cool. (again, irony).

Lucky you that you live in a stable country (maybe not forever), you know what is forever?, maybe your privacy may cost some inconvenience, but in many cases has costed peoples lives.

Not many decades ago people where targeted and sometimes even killed by their believes or political thinking, what do you thing would happen with a database filled with that, even with addresses and circle of friends and family. They used to brand with tattoos nowadays that is not necessary, but who cares about a little tattooed number, no biggie. Now the tattoo comes with GPS and all your data included.

Even now, in some countries have systematized surveillance and that affects their chance to find jobs, getting loans and assurance, lucky you that don't have to think in that. (for now), and what we get in return? better banners? really?

Sorry to come out strong or the graphic examples, but this is not a light "convenience" issue and as we normalize this practices, they become the norm, people get used to it until is too late. You can't change your mind about it, once your data is out there there is no turning back; there is no backsies for your kids after you putted their entire infancy online, no please internet forget I said that.

This is not a UX issue, a should or shouldn't use some color combination. We should stomp on this arguments just like anti-vaccination, anti global warming, etc.

This arguments are even worse and more toxic than flat-earth ones, and that's saying a lot.

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Mike

Well, these are some serious doomsday scenarios. Maybe you shouldn't use the internet since someone could potentially control your entire home from it someday.

Thanks for sharing your opinion and adding to the conversation!

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Ghost

In China, your "social score", is affected by your internet history: from certain keywords in chats, search history which may include international news about China, searching for China historical info, etc. people are subject to punishments, from blacklists to services, difficulty to lease property, get jobs, etc.

In other absolutist countries political dissidents are imprisoned. You think governments are collecting data from everyone to target your ads?. US gov intercepted internet communications of Brazil for years, you know, to catch all those Brazilian terrorist... I bet the pentagon was trying to know what brand of TP to advertise to Brazilians.

In Venezuela, based only on their online presence many officials where fired and in 2014 Twitter users where arrested for their Tweets.

It's not like companies have change elections based in collected data (FB/Cambridge Analytica) or given tools to countries to alter others elections, with targeted adds and FB posts.

And of course nobody is taking control of your home, is not like some company give access to authorities to take over your webcam (who said Ring?).

Sorry to burst your bubble, but what you say it "may happen" already did and still happen, your "doomsday" was a couple of years ago. The world is a bit bigger, and apparently a lot harsher, than Indiana.