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Discussion on: Frontend, backend - let's be friends again

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Bartek Igielski • Edited

For my perspective there is no such thing like "X group of people have more complicated tooling". For a frontend dev, the backend tools seems to be more complicated, while for backend is the oposite and it seems to be very normal, because they have diffrent way of working, goals, background and often even attitude or type of personality.

As you said, it's hard to be good in both, and I don't think the Hotwire (or the approach in general) will change that, so why "force" one to be the other? Let them be experts in one area and it will be beneficial of both "sides", because people always work on the stuff that they comforatable with and will be able deliver as good backend / frontend code as possible, due to their extensive knowledge in that area.

Unfortunalety it's a model where one developer probably can't deliver the whole solution, but isn't that just sing of the times we live in, that things are not simple anymore and it's extremely hard for a single person to be as least good enough in all things necessary to deliver?

Anyways, thanks for this post, realy like it, make be think 🙇‍♂️

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Andrzej Krzywda Author

Thanks for sharing your perspective here.

I'm not accepting the current status quo around frontends/backends - I find it over-complicated and not productive at all.

I also have a different opinion on tooling - it's not subjective. Tooling ecosystem, while hard to measure is in some cases less mature or more mature and thus can be objectively evaluated as worse or better. Frontends just didn't have enough time to mature similarly to some of the backend ecosystems (not all).

Finally, I'm not fine that one developer can't deliver a whole feature alone. While I agree that things are getting more complex, I don't think web overall has to be that complex as it is now.

Peace :)

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Mitch VanDuyn

I cannot agree with you more. The whole front end / back end thing has created a huge amount of friction. As you say a single developer should be able to understand and deliver a feature. It causes friction between developers (I don't mean arguments, just that things slow down), and it causes friction between the customer and the developers.

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