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An erratic Xfce4 Black Screen (WIP)

Ingo Steinke, web developer on January 16, 2026

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But it's still not solved? Maybe just dump Xfce and switch to a "mainstream" display manager (KDE or Gnome, and then preferably the "classic" variants)?

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Ingo Steinke, web developer • Edited

Yes, that's still less risk than changing drivers or configuration. No, not solved, as it's only erratic and I don't need to shutdown every day, I probably got lazy. Thanks for reminding me of the simple alternative!

I had other issues after an Ubuntu distribution upgrade in 2024, and cinnamon seemed too restricted so I felt returning to Xfce also visually going back to the good old days. Maybe I took one step too far backwards though.

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I used to use XFCE4 in the past and used to love it. 1 year ago I tried to change taste and tried KDE and honestly it's good (apart from some nvidia-wayland issues). I definitely recommend KDE. I used KDE with x11 because the waylabd version crashes always with nvidia GPU

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Ingo Steinke, web developer

Interesting. Last time I used KDE it was version 0.x of an obscure alternative desktop system while I struggled to get X11 working at all on my 486 PC with SuSE 2.x or something, haha. I should really try and see how it evolved. Is KDE an option for Mint though?

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I think so. Although it is not officially supported by mint, it should work without problems.

Here is a not too old tutorial for your reference (in case you need something) - linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-kde...

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Gnome classic works for me - not Gnome "Unity", with its huge showy sidebar, which (for me at least) just clutters and gets in the way, and doesn't seem to do anything that I need - but Gnome "classic", with its simple Windows 95/XP style taskbar at the bottom, showing my active/running applications so that I can easily and simply switch between them - and a way to launch apps (via icons or a menu) - and that's it really, nothing more !

That plain, simple, and lovely taskbar is Microsoft's best invention ever - until they messed it up in Windows Vista and later by adding tons of useless features to it ;-)

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Ingo Steinke, web developer

Unity still exists? like Ubuntu One or what was it called? Last time I had Ubuntu Budgie with a MacOS-inspired Dock panel that looked really nice.

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Ingo Steinke, web developer

Gnome and KDE don't seem to be officially supported mainstream Xfce alternative for Linux Mint 22 though, but Cinnamon and Mate are.

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I used Ubuntu back when I was a (satisfied) Linux user, later on I switched to MacOS - but Linux wasn't bad at all ...

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Ingo Steinke, web developer

I think I will first try and switch the display manager from lightdm to sddm, maybe I can even keep Xfce, otherwise I'd probaboly switch to Cinnamon. MacOS is nice, its UI much better than Windows, but still too much Apple vendor lock in.

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leob • Edited

Yeah well you're tied to their hardware, which is obviously pretty expensive, but I'm now used to it and pretty satisfied, so I'm not going to switch back ... but, Linux (Ubuntu in my case) was nice, nothing wrong with it!

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Grant Macleod

nice