Good one mate, teach me about communication. Attempted insults about ones choice of words are just the best way to come out as a great communicator. Sure let's do spelling next.
Now, I am neither yours or our friend career advisor to make holistic analysis and dispense advice on what might or might not help their case. Or assess if they are actually talented, or feel entitled.
Anything I say here can be refuted with "well that won't help since they got that issue solved".
If you are inundated with interest "being bad at linked in" is probably not your issue. As far as our hypothetical friend with great skill, but linked in trouble - my advice stands.
Bosses hiring people for telling them what they want to hear, or "personality" rather than actual skill has always been a problem.
For example me being in the office (and spending 15hr/week in commute), is completely pointless, but my willingness to do that is why I have that job as opposed to someone with greater skill. Boss wants people on premises, take it or leave it.
One of the most salient features of our Tech Hiring culture is that there is so much bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted.
Good one mate, teach me about communication. Attempted insults about ones choice of words are just the best way to come out as a great communicator. Sure let's do spelling next.
Regarding spelling, if you have a look at some of my previous articles you can easily notice I make lots of them. I'm pretty sure you can find some in this comment.
It was never, is not now, and will not be tomorrow my intention to teach you a lesson, come out as the winner of the argument or insult you in any way.
I said your tips are good because they are.
In fact you got the gist of my message.
Some people are OK-ish in one area and need tactical/technical tips on how to improve. I said your LinkedIn tips are good because I do think they are good in this case.
Others need a career advisor (like you intuitively said) or as a starting point a friend who is ready to listen.
I used to be that friend who badly needed a career coach or a friend willing to listen.
I'm often silly, sometimes I'm awkward, but on this particular topic I care way too deeply about the importance of making the right choices in your career to be distracted by my hurt ego.
Now, I am neither yours or our friend career advisor to make holistic analysis (...). Or assess if they are actually talented (...)
If your friend already has a career advisor then you don't need to do that. But if she hasn't one, like almost everyone, of course you can assess if she is actually talented. It's your friend! You know her better than a recruiter who asked her how many windows there was in Manhattan or made them pass a stupid inverse binary tree shit on a leetcode-like website. You have spent way more time with her than they have. You like her and want to help. You have more patience than they will ever have understand what's really going on.
Bosses hiring people for telling them what they want to hear, or "personality" rather than actual skill has always been a problem.
The problem will always exist yes, I agree with you. But it could be slightly better or slightly worse, so I don't see that as a reason to do nothing.
For example me being in the office (and spending 15hr/week in commute), is completely pointless, but my willingness to do that is why I have that job as opposed to someone with greater skill. Boss wants people on premises, take it or leave it.
I don't know your context, but a career advisor might tell you that you were probably right to accept doing 15h/week of commute when you did that choice. Something like let have stability an get the money problem out of the window first.
But he - maybe, again this has to be indivdual - could also help you to see that today is somehwat different. You may be able to find another job more easily than you think. Given that fact, you may have more leverage than you think to renegociate with your currrent boss, even if you don't want to quit. And that in fact if maybe the right thing to do because wasting so much time with commute is one of the few tings scientifically proven to make people unhappy over the long run.
Yeah, pointless and unsustainable commute, either would need to move somewhere closer or failing that, move jobs, eventually.
Presenteism, get paid more with noticably less skill. Is it unfair, well whoever thinks it is, they are welcome to chase a job far from their location, in unaffordable part of town, spend a lot of money and time on commute. Boss thinks there is some value in people being there, pays extra for that.
Ironically one can be both overpaid and underpaid in the same time.
And lots of other jobs are much worse. Vacancies are usually vacant for a reason.
One of the most salient features of our Tech Hiring culture is that there is so much bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted.
Well you know how it goes, no job is perfect. Commute sucks, pay is fine, I'd say above average for that skill level and actual tasks. Can't be hopping jobs every time a marginally better one shows up, given the risks involved.
One of the most salient features of our Tech Hiring culture is that there is so much bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted.
Right and I am not telling you where to work, that's a very personal choice. This is not incompatible with learning how to negociate better so that a few months from now you are maybe ready to have a conversation with your boss on how to spend less time commuting. Obviously this is hard, and that's why searching for a new job is useful, even if you don't plan to change. It helps you realize that you have opportunities out there, it gives you a BATNA, it gives you leverage.
In negotiation theory, the best alternative to a negotiated agreement or BATNA refers to the most advantageous alternative course of action a party can take if negotiations fail and an agreement cannot be reached. The BATNA could include diverse situations, such as suspension of negotiations, transition to another negotiating partner, appeal to the court's ruling, the execution of strikes, and the formation of other forms of alliances. BATNA is the key focus and the driving force behind a successful negotiator. A party should generally not accept a worse resolution than its BATNA. Care should be taken, however, to ensure that deals are accurately valued, taking into account all considerations, such as relationship value, time value of money and the likelihood that the other party will live up to their side of the bargain. These other considerations are often difficult to value since they are frequently based on uncertain or qualitative…
Good one mate, teach me about communication. Attempted insults about ones choice of words are just the best way to come out as a great communicator. Sure let's do spelling next.
Now, I am neither yours or our friend career advisor to make holistic analysis and dispense advice on what might or might not help their case. Or assess if they are actually talented, or feel entitled.
Anything I say here can be refuted with "well that won't help since they got that issue solved".
If you are inundated with interest "being bad at linked in" is probably not your issue. As far as our hypothetical friend with great skill, but linked in trouble - my advice stands.
Bosses hiring people for telling them what they want to hear, or "personality" rather than actual skill has always been a problem.
For example me being in the office (and spending 15hr/week in commute), is completely pointless, but my willingness to do that is why I have that job as opposed to someone with greater skill. Boss wants people on premises, take it or leave it.
Regarding spelling, if you have a look at some of my previous articles you can easily notice I make lots of them. I'm pretty sure you can find some in this comment.
It was never, is not now, and will not be tomorrow my intention to teach you a lesson, come out as the winner of the argument or insult you in any way.
I said your tips are good because they are.
In fact you got the gist of my message.
Some people are OK-ish in one area and need tactical/technical tips on how to improve. I said your LinkedIn tips are good because I do think they are good in this case.
Others need a career advisor (like you intuitively said) or as a starting point a friend who is ready to listen.
I used to be that friend who badly needed a career coach or a friend willing to listen.
I'm often silly, sometimes I'm awkward, but on this particular topic I care way too deeply about the importance of making the right choices in your career to be distracted by my hurt ego.
If your friend already has a career advisor then you don't need to do that. But if she hasn't one, like almost everyone, of course you can assess if she is actually talented. It's your friend! You know her better than a recruiter who asked her how many windows there was in Manhattan or made them pass a stupid inverse binary tree shit on a leetcode-like website. You have spent way more time with her than they have. You like her and want to help. You have more patience than they will ever have understand what's really going on.
The problem will always exist yes, I agree with you. But it could be slightly better or slightly worse, so I don't see that as a reason to do nothing.
I don't know your context, but a career advisor might tell you that you were probably right to accept doing 15h/week of commute when you did that choice. Something like let have stability an get the money problem out of the window first.
But he - maybe, again this has to be indivdual - could also help you to see that today is somehwat different. You may be able to find another job more easily than you think. Given that fact, you may have more leverage than you think to renegociate with your currrent boss, even if you don't want to quit. And that in fact if maybe the right thing to do because wasting so much time with commute is one of the few tings scientifically proven to make people unhappy over the long run.
Yeah, pointless and unsustainable commute, either would need to move somewhere closer or failing that, move jobs, eventually.
Presenteism, get paid more with noticably less skill. Is it unfair, well whoever thinks it is, they are welcome to chase a job far from their location, in unaffordable part of town, spend a lot of money and time on commute. Boss thinks there is some value in people being there, pays extra for that.
Ironically one can be both overpaid and underpaid in the same time.
And lots of other jobs are much worse. Vacancies are usually vacant for a reason.
Would you say you have no alternative job, no negociating power,
or just not right now the skills, time and energy to look out for them ?
Well you know how it goes, no job is perfect. Commute sucks, pay is fine, I'd say above average for that skill level and actual tasks. Can't be hopping jobs every time a marginally better one shows up, given the risks involved.
Right and I am not telling you where to work, that's a very personal choice. This is not incompatible with learning how to negociate better so that a few months from now you are maybe ready to have a conversation with your boss on how to spend less time commuting. Obviously this is hard, and that's why searching for a new job is useful, even if you don't plan to change. It helps you realize that you have opportunities out there, it gives you a BATNA, it gives you leverage.
In negotiation theory, the best alternative to a negotiated agreement or BATNA refers to the most advantageous alternative course of action a party can take if negotiations fail and an agreement cannot be reached. The BATNA could include diverse situations, such as suspension of negotiations, transition to another negotiating partner, appeal to the court's ruling, the execution of strikes, and the formation of other forms of alliances. BATNA is the key focus and the driving force behind a successful negotiator. A party should generally not accept a worse resolution than its BATNA. Care should be taken, however, to ensure that deals are accurately valued, taking into account all considerations, such as relationship value, time value of money and the likelihood that the other party will live up to their side of the bargain. These other considerations are often difficult to value since they are frequently based on uncertain or qualitative…
Well no job is perfect, and at this point I can trade but not upgrade.
So you know, it is what it is.
But yeah I agree on BATNA, that's why I'd advise developers to diversify their skill, build a bit of a network and so on.