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Jason Espin • Edited

I don't agree with the first point. As someone who started off in web development using notepad / notepad ++ (especially as Dreamweaver used to add too much extra crap to your code) I feel that my base understanding of front-end approaches far outweighs that of someone who has VsCode or VisualStudio suggesting classes and approaches to someone. It is much better to gain a base understanding and find for yourself what certain CSS etc do before having it done / refactored for you by a clever IDE. At the end of the day, if the IDE is doing most of the work for you rather than assisting in refactoring then you aren't really coding you are essentially painting by numbers.

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Dreamweaver is WYSWIG editor, it's not a code editor. Don't put everything in one bucket.

notepad++ comes with highlighting and bracket matching (don't remember about code indentation, but probably it does it too). You kind of agreeing with the first point...

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Jason Espin • Edited

Not really when I explicitly mention good old notepad standard. This is also before Notepad ++ came bundled with all of that stuff. Also, just because Dreamweaver is a WYSIWYG editor doesn't mean that you can't code in just the code panel. In fact, back in the day the code window was all you would see through fear of the crappy WYSIWYG editor adding in loads of garbage markup. Either way it's beside the point. Developers, especially when learning front end which is one of the easier fields to come to terms with, should have a base understanding of best practise, conventions and indeed syntax without having a IDE hint at everything for them.

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stereobooster Author • Edited

This Dreamweaver remark is almost a strawman.

Strawman - you misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.
By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate.

-- yourlogicalfallacyis

I didn't talk about code generation I talked about highlighting and syntax checking right in the editor.

I don't need to convince you - you are not a newbie.

Newbies, whenever you will hear this advice - ask if adviser uses notepad or proper text editor in day to day job and reach your conclusions.