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Jukka-Pekka Keisala

Telegram Cooperates with FSB news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30661335. So, switching from WhatsApp to Telegram you switch from CIA to FSB. Also Telegram does not end-to-end encrypt group messages.
Just like others here mentioned already. Don't use Telegram. Signal is much more secure and private alternative.

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Thomas Hansen

YCombinator has literally funded every single Silicon Valley company for the record. So their "credibility" in these regards isn't really that high I'd say ... ;)

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Jukka-Pekka Keisala

Just search Telegram and FSB if you think a user of Hacker News is bias toward YCombinator. Tldr: FSB demanded encryption keys then banned Telegram, raided offices arrested some people. Then suddenly openend the service in Russia again. Telegram founder says they did not give encryption keys. You can make your own conclusions from this.

I stand in my argument that use Open Source fully encrypted messaging is better alternative. As it is today Signal from security point of view does better job on this. By to way. Signal is Silicon Valley based just as DuckDuckGo and both have same investor. (Brian Acton founder of WhatsApp)

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Thomas Hansen

OK, I believe you - Just a bit sceptical towards most of these companies, since they all tend to bend over after a while. WhatsApp used to be E2E crypto for instance. Me and my wife ran a test on it where we could literally prove that whatever we chatted about over WhatsApp turned into targeted ads on Facebook a couple of minutes later ... :/

As to Telegram's employees being arrested. Most Russian companies ends up there at some point in time, which is a known method for the "cleptocracy" to coerce founders to literally "give away" their companies to some distant cousin of Putin or something ...

The nGinx founder just spent some time in jail over similar accusations ...

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nyxb

when duck duck go and Signal are both funded by WhatsApp's founder. Are they corrupted you too or not?

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Thomas Hansen

If I remember correctly WhatsApp's founder quit WhatsApp due to "being in disagreement with Zuckerberg", at roughly the time WhatsApp pulled E2E cryptography - So it doesn't worry me that much actually ...