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Discussion on: Let’s talk about Coded Bias

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Matt Ellen

I watched it for the first time last night.

I had an inklinking of the problems with machine learning, and the other algorithms in play, but I had no idea the scope of implementation. I've been slowly trying (and failing) to wean myself off social media for a while now, because I dislike all the predictions they're making about me, but the breadth of use by governmental institutions and private enterprise surprised me.

As a Brit, I was truly appalled by how the Met are using face recognition in London. They know they have a racism problem in their regular police force, so it seems stupidly short-sighted to automate their biases.

For all the terrible things the pandemic has wrought, at least we've got a good excuse to walk around London in masks.

The fact that they still try to justify intimidating minorities and the working class as "keeping people safe" is an utter joke.

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hildri • Edited

I agree, to see those examples in London were a surprise for me as well. Then I started to investigate more and, here in Spain, the police are also using AI-based software. And biases were already such a complicated human feature... without tech. I'm truly worried about how we are going to live in a few years. I don't think I will get to see the world ruled by machines, I just want to be able to know, in a hypothetical scenario, why an algorithm rejected my loan application or why my CV got rejected by an automated HR system.

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Matt Ellen

The section about the teachers being fired by algorithm was mind blowing. Calling it a "value add system" is Orwellian doublespeak if ever I heard it!

It reminds me of the algorthim they recently used in the UK to determine who got into university because students couldn't take exams due to covid. Funnily enough rich kids got in and poor kids did not. Shocker.