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Discussion on: How to get rid off hero banners on DEV.to

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Michael Tharrington

I totally get that you see DEV as a place for you to escape from what many folks would refer to as "politics" and that you don't want to see anything that isn't just focused on the programming side of programming.

That said, the point of these messages is not to harass anyone. On the contrary, it's worth noting that the overwhelming message we're trying to send with these banners and announcements is that all are welcome here and we encourage everyone to actively participate in making DEV an inclusive, thoughtful, kind place that's open to all developers.

These banners and announcements speak to events that line up well with our Code of Conduct which promotes diversity and inclusivity. So, these aren't just one-off announcements for us, but true reflections of our company values.

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Paweł Kowalski • Edited

Well, I feel extremely excluded when I have to perform closing actions to see the main content of the page. I think its a huge usability issue.

Also it is kind of disrespectful trying to push idea of celebrating anything to an adult audience. For example, I can think for myself and celebrate whatever i want to, without any encouragement in form of a banner on software development site. If you want to celebrate, nobody is preventing you? It just doesn't have to be forced upon all users to close some things when they want to do why they came for to this website every time you celebrate something.

Anyway, its not my problem anymore, I got rid off it. It's now problem of all the other users that will have to deal with it.

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🦄N B🛡 • Edited

Those pushes are hostile to everyone who do not want to celebrate, participate, but just want to use the page.

I don't think there's anything hostile, there.

But I think it would be wise for the dev.to, as a platform, to be more honest and direct about their political leanings, and what those leanings might imply about with disagreement with them.

Because not everybody agrees with the prevailing Campus Ideology, like White Privilege, the Patriarchy, or that Disparities == Discrimination.

That said, it's miles ahead of Twitter, Facehook, or Reddit, as far as I can tell, in terms of equanimity and a modicum of presuming good faith.

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Michael Tharrington

I think the banners generally provide insight into our "political leanings" — not sure how you can be much more direct about your beliefs than to point to them out with a banner on the site. 😅

I also think we're very tolerant about people disagreeing with our "political leanings". But if our "political leanings" are tied to calls for diversity and inclusion, then folks who oppose these thoughts may feel obligated to act against our Code of Conduct. If they do so, then we may act to call them out or even put a note on their comment that we think it's unconstructive.

In this context, there was a banner around this time that pointed to dev.to/black-lives-matter. To us, this was an opportunity to show support to the Black community on DEV — it seems to jive really well with our Code of Conduct's call for empathy and inclusion. I don't think we were being dishonest or indirect about our ideologies.