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Is Robert "uncle Bob" Martin a racist? Or how come people recently call him that?
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Top comments (13)
I'm not sure if he's a racist. I do know that he very recently posted Trump quotes on Twitter. He's been doing this for several years on Facebook. Being Pro-Trump does not make someone a racist, but some of the positions Trump takes are certainly racially charged or in some cases flat out racist.
If he was a racist it wouldn't make his writing and teaching on software less relevant, so my advice to everyone is to read through his publicly posted comments and decide if you're comfortable giving him money before buying cleancode et.al. that doesn't have to be a judgement on someone being a racist, just if they're someone you want to support financially.
Do you have specific quotes?
Why would "uncle Bob" be racist? I can't see anything from a quick search.
Check Facebook
That's pretty vague, and I don't use Facebook. I think if you want to start a discussion, it would be more helpful if you could link to something, because it's quite difficult to follow otherwise.
My thoughts as well. I'm non white and have been victim of racism as well. I would not throw that word around lightly. Keep in mind he is doing it for a living and people are about to destroy it without hard evidence.
Everyone should be considered innocent until proven guilty - even if we don't like that person
I will quickly add that posts like this are not inherently "racist" but they do deny a truth that a lot of people have been coming to learn over the last few years.
I don't think that this is enough to call him "racist"..... Or am I missing something? I really want to understand
So in conclusion is this "enough", are the sum total of many posts like this "enough"? Who cares, in the end people on the internet will yell about people being racist. You only need to decide "Is this someone whose beliefs I support and whom I want to give money to?" If the answer is no, you can tell other people why that's the case, avoid buying his books, avoid conferences he's being paid to speak at, etc. If the answer is yes then you can do the opposite.
Multiple part answer, starting with the post:
The post is problematic because it denies that a problem exists (racial disperity in policing). If a problem does not exist there can be no solution, which to many people would seem to be advocating for continued police killings of POC.
Part 2, implication:
By asserting that disperity in police outcomes doesn't exist after "accounting for variables" he is asserting intentionally or not that people of color are more likely to "deserve" these outcomes. While also stating that there isn't a systemic problem in the country it must follow that fundamentally POC should be more aggressively policed. This is the racist and logical conclusion sitting just below his argument.
The argument that police are treating POC fairly when accounting for variables is not inherently racist. Besides being supported by statistics, the conclusion is what we would expect to see based on structural inequality. POC don't commit more crimes per capita because of their skin color or some other intrinsic characteristic; POC commit more crimes per capita because racist policies resulted in POC populations being concentrated in urban areas with bad schools and poor economies. As a result they don't have the same opportunities and support most white people enjoy, which increases crime rates. Both the higher crime rate and population density means more contact with police and more opportunity for things to go wrong, but it's the environment which creates the disparity, not, as far as studies have shown, police behaving unfairly within the environment.
Pt3. 🦆
The language used in this post re: left wing media conspiracy is the same language used by people who are explicitly racist. By repeatedly using the same language as people who are racist outside observers have decided, "he probably agrees with them on OTHER things." Taking the same side as the racists do in an argument doesn't help that association, even if there's a claim that his reason for taking that side is not racism.