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RRKallan

@toxictoast

Ps: you can control the re-rendering in react components by using memo

I now about memo in React.
Why using memo when you can easily prevent?

I am not willing to discuss stuff somebody doesn't want to know about and is biased by his opinion. That's why the comment is shit.

If this is the only argument from you, then sorry. Because @deathshadow60 is giving arguments why and also provided an example. Based on my assumptions i placed example on the opinion of @deathshadow60 and to try to make his argument / opinion a little bit clear.
In our work there will be a lot of opinions. To grow we need to listen to each other, and give arguments.

The why you are reacting I personally dislikes and gives the feeling that you don't want to look out of your scope. I hope that i'm totally wrong about it.

To defend your reaction. It could be the why how @deathshadow60 reacts. The way of reaction could be more friendlier. But it could also be his way of communicate.

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ToxicToast

Why should i use my precious time and proof you wrong? i can proof you wrong (not 100% but at least over 75%)
Some Things are better done without Frameworks and Libraries (the fact that you call react a Framework is the proof that you have no idea) i'll give you that.
But some things should be done easier for the dev.
End-Users doesnt care if its 100+ Lines Vanilla Code, or 30 Lines of React, Angular, Vuejs.

But yeah - keep on compel your opinion to others with wall of texts and texts.
Im done with you now. Keep on Commenting nonsense i wont react to it anymore (pun intended)

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deathshadow60

@rkallan "his way of communication"

I'm a New Englander, by nature we're not a friendly people. There's an old joke:

In the deep south if you have a problem, everyone flashes you a smile, showers you in soothing-syrup platitudes, pats you on the back, and sends you packing with nothing more than the mental masturbation of "Thoughs and prayers"

In New England, we will berate and browbeat you, dissect every mistake you've ever made, call you a dumbass straight to your face... and then give you the shirt off our back if it actually helps.

Because you have to break things down to build them back better.

If I'm harsh on the topic, it's from seeing an endless stream of users being screwed over by these bad practices, and site owners getting equally bent over the log and told to "squeal like a pig" by the ignorant trash that are front-end frameworks.

But as @toxictoast seems to think, caring about other people is narcissism. Of course it is.

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@toxictoast wow, the other predictable response common to the "wah wah is not", accusation of entitlement and ad-hominem... and now the Brave Sir Robin "run away, run away" because you're incapable of providing a rational counterpoint. As always with these types of "keep your opinion to yourself" twaddles, they can't defend their opposing opinion with facts, so they run away crying like a petulant five year old.

You even use the "end user doesn't care" argument. Is there a playbook those of you yumming up the lies about how great this manure is go by? An "Idiots guide to not defending your viewpoint" or something?

Here's a tip, end users do care when your bloated train wreck of code that's delivered doesn't gracefully degrade scripting off. They do care when it takes so long to load they say "screw this" and decide to go to another site. They do care when you have accessibility woes that sends them to a competitor, or worse into the legal system to sue the pants off you.

Just ask Domino's, Winn-Dixie, Beyoncé, Harvard U, Blue Apron, Nike and so forth about that. Or the banks, public utilities, medical facilities, and government organizations I've consulted at the past decade. But sure, "the user doesn't care about the code". Another of the fallacies people mindlessly parrot utterly devoid of fact.

Not that Domino's seems to care that their "JS for nothing" is so broken now, 90% of the time even non-disabled users can't order a freaking pizza. That HAS to be killing their bottom line.

"JS for nothing and your scripts for free. That ain't workin', that's not how you do it. Lemme tell ya, these guys ARE dumb."

Even more comical is the "AAAH, WALL OF TEXT" response so common to the poorly educated and gullible Twitter generation, who freak out over anything longer than a paragraph. All the more laughable on a website where people are posting ARTICLES. If you hate text so blasted much, why are you even here?

Keep digging that ditch pal.

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RRKallan

@deathshadow60
For me no need to defend your why of communication 😉 but as we now not every body understand likes each why if communication.

Personal I like the direct communication. Only what I want to try is that we come to a point to understand and listen to each arguments.