When padded_shape ≠ logical_shape: A Subtle C++ Bug in ML Framework Gradients
The Bug Report
A developer opened an issue: ttnn.repeat_bw crashes on non-tile-multiple shapes, returns empty gradients for dim-2/dim-3 repeats, and produces wrong output shapes. Three separate bugs in one function.
# Bug 1: TT_FATAL crash
x = torch.randn(1, 1, 17, 37) # not tile-aligned
ttnn.repeat_bw(grad, x, sizes=[2, 1, 1, 1]) # crashes inside moreh_sum
# Bug 2: Empty gradient
ttnn.repeat_bw(grad, x, sizes=[1, 1, 2, 1]) # returns []
# Bug 3: Wrong shape
x = torch.randn(1, 3, 32, 32) # dim-1 extent = 3
ttnn.repeat_bw(grad, x, sizes=[1, 2, 1, 1]) # returns (1,1,32,32) instead of (1,3,32,32)
Finding the Root Cause
The function repeat_bw in unary_backward.cpp had three issues:
Bug 1: padded_shape vs logical_shape
// BUG: uses padded shape (tile-aligned, e.g., 32)
auto shape_wh = input.padded_shape();
// ...
auto required = ttnn::Shape(intended_shape_array); // padded dims
Tensor result = ttnn::moreh_sum(grad, dim, true, ttnn::zeros(required, ...));
// moreh_sum validates against logical shape → MISMATCH → TT_FATAL
ttnn tiles data in 32×32 blocks. A tensor with logical shape (1, 1, 17, 37) has padded shape (1, 1, 32, 32). Using the padded shape to preallocate the moreh_sum output created a mismatch: the preallocator said (1, 1, 32, 32) but moreh expected (1, 1, 17, 37).
Fix: input.shape() instead of input.padded_shape().
Bug 2: Missing dim 2 and dim 3 cases
if (shape[0] > 1) { ... return; }
if (shape[1] > 1) { ... return; }
return grad_tensor; // ← empty for dim 2/3!
The function only handled repeat factors for dimensions 0 and 1. A repeat along dim 2 or 3 fell through to the empty return.
Fix: add symmetric cases for shape[2] > 1 and shape[3] > 1.
Bug 3: Wrong output shape
Using padded dims in the output shape constructor meant that (1, 3, 32, 32) became (1, 32, 32, 32) — the 3 was lost and replaced with 32 (padded).
Fix: same as Bug 1 — logical shape preserves the true dimension extents.
The Complete Fix
// Before: 1 bug, 2 missing cases
auto shape_wh = input.padded_shape();
// After: correct + 2 more cases
auto shape_wh = input.shape();
if (shape[2] > 1) {
ttsl::SmallVector<int64_t> dim = {2};
TT_FATAL(shape[0] == 1 && shape[1] == 1 && shape[3] == 1, "...");
std::array<std::uint32_t, 4> intended_shape_array = {shape_wh[0], shape_wh[1], 1, shape_wh[3]};
auto required = ttnn::Shape(intended_shape_array);
Tensor result = ttnn::moreh_sum(grad, dim, true,
ttnn::zeros(required, input.dtype(), input.layout(), *ttnn_device, output_memory_config),
output_memory_config, std::nullopt);
grad_tensor.emplace_back(result);
return grad_tensor;
}
// Similar case for shape[3] > 1...
Why This Matters
This pattern — using padded shape where logical shape is needed — is a common source of bugs in ML frameworks that use tiling. It's especially dangerous because:
- Tests often use tile-aligned shapes (32×32), hiding the bug
- The padded shape is silently different from the logical shape
- Different subsystems validate against different notions of "the shape"
Lessons for ML Framework Developers
- Always use logical shape for API contracts — padding is an implementation detail
- Test with non-tile-multiple shapes — use 1, 17, 37, etc. as test dimensions
- Watch for asymmetric handling — if your code handles dims 0/1 but not 2/3, that's a design smell
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Validate at boundaries —
moreh_sumcorrectly validates against logical shape; trust those checks
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