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Discussion on: Daily Standup Meetings are useless

 
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David Israel

A meeting is a tool. There are limits to what can be accomplished with synchronous meetings as there are limits to any tool. No matter how well you run the standup or do soft skills communication the meeting happens point in time.

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Davide de Paolis

everything is a tool. language is a tool. outcome varies depending how you use the tool.
in my post I am addressing a specific problem related to communication and softskills in the people attending standups, which I noticed in 10 years of Daily Scrums, in different teams and projects.
I am absolutely fine with Daily Scrum and Kanban, how they are meant, and I am fine with Jira and Trello ( never used other tools so far, so I can;t say) , just wanted to stress how too often we overlook the main point of it, forgetting the blockers and limiting it to a round-up of how was your day yesterday..

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Davide de Paolis

having said all that. I'd suggest to continue the conversation about the concept and not about your specific tool @uclusion thanks

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David Israel

The concept that we somehow forget to mention our blockers in daily standup meetings?

So you are basically saying that in 10 years of Daily Scrums, in different teams and projects, the only thing you learned is that software developers are deeply incompetent.

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Davide de Paolis

ah ah! you can say so :wink. or you can say that developers have really to invest more energy in soft skills and communication.
Personally, I like to talk and discuss a lot about coding and tasks, and normally the awareness of blockers emerge while chatting, via a quiet request of help on slack or by physically seeing that a dev is struggling with an issue or having lots of discussions with other members. I understand that PjM and other stakeholder might need different tools, like daily standups, which unfortunately are not often optimal. not because people are stupid, incompetent, or malicious, rather because of lack of communication skills, experience, confidence.
have a nice day

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David Israel

Yes let's imagine for a second that people are not ridiculous enough to attend a meeting whose only purpose is to mention blockers and then forget to mention blockers.

Alternatively let's hypothesize that it's the meetings fault...

Suppose for instance that to a developer a point in time meeting doesn't really serve much purpose. He after all has to continue coding throughout the day. He's going to face blockers the entire day also.

So to a developer whether or not he mentions the blockers at one particular time of day is not very relevant. The meeting makes no sense and so he doesn't take it as seriously as you.