I think you missed an important part which went along with the quoted statement. I said it is irrelevant to the employers and end users. I wasn't talking about developers.
The scenarios that you mentioned as well, both the scenarios are relevant to the developers. Not necessarily for the employers or end users as I mentioned earlier.
A website with the mentioned first scenario can succeed and the second scenario can fail if the translation of solutions and business doesn't go well. Also vice versa. I definitely agree with you on the fact that the developers should write clean and understandable code. And that we should avoid magic and hacks as much as possible.
But with regards to the topic at hand, I don't think Tailwind CSS is a hack. Also, it actually teaches plain CSS and provides performance while doing it. I cannot say the same for component based CSS frameworks which are always a performance hog and makes you forget plain CSS. They only provide performance value when they can be utilised to the max, which mostly will be in a large project. Otherwise there is a performance tax.
Apart from the utility classes crowding the markup, I don't see any problem here. Not to mention if you want, you can make those into components and use it that way. The official typography plugin also provides sane defaults to many html elements through prose utility class. So for me, the pros outweighs the cons by many a mile. But that is just my use case. I don't think one abstraction layer can make everyone happy. And that is fine. It's the same reason why we have many choices. :)
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I heard you say "Our job's to translate things to solutions. HOW we do it is irrelevant." Yet, I still believe that code solutions are still relevant to managers if trying to edit or add to the current code is extremely difficult and time confusing.
So yes, managers should definitely know in a general and easy-to-understand way if a previously created code is time confusing to add to or edit.
But, if code is structured in a way that's easy to edit and can be scaled up, then managers don't need to know as many details.
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Hey Matt,
I think you missed an important part which went along with the quoted statement. I said it is irrelevant to the employers and end users. I wasn't talking about developers.
The scenarios that you mentioned as well, both the scenarios are relevant to the developers. Not necessarily for the employers or end users as I mentioned earlier.
A website with the mentioned first scenario can succeed and the second scenario can fail if the translation of solutions and business doesn't go well. Also vice versa. I definitely agree with you on the fact that the developers should write clean and understandable code. And that we should avoid magic and hacks as much as possible.
But with regards to the topic at hand, I don't think Tailwind CSS is a hack. Also, it actually teaches plain CSS and provides performance while doing it. I cannot say the same for component based CSS frameworks which are always a performance hog and makes you forget plain CSS. They only provide performance value when they can be utilised to the max, which mostly will be in a large project. Otherwise there is a performance tax.
Apart from the utility classes crowding the markup, I don't see any problem here. Not to mention if you want, you can make those into components and use it that way. The official typography plugin also provides sane defaults to many html elements through
proseutility class. So for me, the pros outweighs the cons by many a mile. But that is just my use case. I don't think one abstraction layer can make everyone happy. And that is fine. It's the same reason why we have many choices. :)Hi Nikhil,
I heard you say "Our job's to translate things to solutions. HOW we do it is irrelevant." Yet, I still believe that code solutions are still relevant to managers if trying to edit or add to the current code is extremely difficult and time confusing.
So yes, managers should definitely know in a general and easy-to-understand way if a previously created code is time confusing to add to or edit.
But, if code is structured in a way that's easy to edit and can be scaled up, then managers don't need to know as many details.