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Victor Osório

Thanks! I agree with you.

About the tons of frameworks...

In truth, there is a political game from Pivotal that creates one framework besides the community.

In Java, the community is important and there is a standard for development. Jakarta EE, former Java EE, is the standard. If you implement your application using Jakarta EE you can deploy in any Application Server the implements it. I have already switched from one implementation to another with no changes on my code.

Now Spring is the most used Framework, but it is not a Java standard.

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Matteo Nunziati

Yes, this is debatable: it is better to have a rather complex standard (Jakarta) once learned used everywhere, or a lot of simple frameworks? I mean: it took me 30 min to understand Vert.x Web, but a lot of CDI/IoC is still black magic to me! Let alone how the hell JPA can amazingly derive SQL queries from methods' manes! that's silly!