My disappearing is not at all how you describe it and I am intensely disappointed in you. You know very well that I have tried, with enormous investments and sweat and effort and time, to keep Perl 5 and Perl 6, and later, Perl and Raku, together. A growing number of Perl 5 people grew a resentment against Perl 6, later against Raku. And they did everything they could to hurt both. I have seen it happen, I felt the anger, the confusion, the disrespect.
I was misguided? How dare you say that. How dare you explain what I did, why I did it, in such words. I am quite disgusted. It's so difficult for me to stay calm at this utter travesty of words to describe why I left. I left because too many Perl 5 people could not get over themselves to cooperate with Perl 6 / Raku people. I left, the final straw, because of ether uttering "Free, free at last", when "Raku" was introduced as a nickname for Perl 6.
It was just that Larry Wall who proclaimed it would be acceptable to him to use Raku as a nickname to Perl 6. And Perl 5 people were happy that they were finally freed from those horrible people of Perl 6 who did not want to understand that Perl 5 was the glorious perfect thing and Perl 6 was a bastard rotten thing. Thank you very much. But it was just supposed to be a nickname.
I do not like myself to be described to be a slave-holder. Because that is what "Free, free at last" means. It was uttered by black slaves in the USA when they finally were told they were no longer slaves.
As I said, it was the final straw for me. Many straws before. I have tried often, and invested a lot of money, energy, time, effort, to get Perl 5 and Perl 6 to work together. I failed. I am a total failure. Thanks to the stubborn behaviour of Perl 5 people. So that is why I left the Perl 5 community.
I stayed with Perl 6. I continued promoting Perl. And yes, even Perl 5. I kept on selling Perl 5 books (even though more people were interested in Perl 6 books, often enough at conferences I sold ten times more Perl 6 books than Perl 5 books), give away stickers and buttons and tuits related to Perl 5.
At some point, people from Perl 6 started discussing changing the name of Perl 6 to something else, and at first, "Rakudo" was the main contender. I was against that, because I loved (and still love) Perl as a concept, as a worldwide community, as a programming language.
I told the people of Perl 6 that when they indeed would change the name to something not "Perl", my contributions would end. I have spent the better part of 15 years to reunite Perl 5 and Perl 6, spent quite some money on it, supported many initiatives, etc etc. Even got a White Camel Award for my (and Liz') work. I wrote some opinionated blogs about it.
They still went ahead and changed the name. That, and only than, was the reason I left Perl 6 aka Raku. Not because anything you said. Blah blah blah. Don't you ever again speak for me again.
And no, I do not hate people, I do not hate Matt, I consider myself still a friend of him, and would like to hang out again, but probably unfortunately will not happen soon.
I still have the camel "Meeltje" standing proudly in our hallway, next to the largest library of Perl books. I still have thousands of euros worth of swag (books, stickers, buttons, tuits, Camelia stuffed toy butterflies, etc) in my cellar, ready to bring to a new Perl & Raku Event, but thanks to covid19 it is not going to happen soon, and thanks to too many ego people the cooperation has failed.
I am terribly sad all this happened, and maybe some day I can get over it. Until then, you and many other people make me utterly sad. Oh, the anger has gone mostly, until you wrote what you wrote today.
Update:
Addition. I have to make something a bit more clear. The reason that I did not want to promote Raku, is that I want to promote Perl. As a family of languages, 5 & 6. Perl as a concept of versatility, there is more than one way to do it, as explorers of what can be possible, as fun in coding. I did not want to do all that over again for Raku. Even though Raku for me is still Perl 6, and therefore Perl. I just can't get myself to go make Raku stickers, Raku buttons, Raku tuits, Raku brochures, enthuse people to write Raku books, sponsor Raku conferences. Because it lacks the word Perl. Maybe some day.
I said you were misguided about "trusting the individual the Mojolicious org pointed at" and found this in recent disagreements, not that you were misguided about all of your disagreements.
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My disappearing is not at all how you describe it and I am intensely disappointed in you. You know very well that I have tried, with enormous investments and sweat and effort and time, to keep Perl 5 and Perl 6, and later, Perl and Raku, together. A growing number of Perl 5 people grew a resentment against Perl 6, later against Raku. And they did everything they could to hurt both. I have seen it happen, I felt the anger, the confusion, the disrespect.
I was misguided? How dare you say that. How dare you explain what I did, why I did it, in such words. I am quite disgusted. It's so difficult for me to stay calm at this utter travesty of words to describe why I left. I left because too many Perl 5 people could not get over themselves to cooperate with Perl 6 / Raku people. I left, the final straw, because of ether uttering "Free, free at last", when "Raku" was introduced as a nickname for Perl 6.
It was just that Larry Wall who proclaimed it would be acceptable to him to use Raku as a nickname to Perl 6. And Perl 5 people were happy that they were finally freed from those horrible people of Perl 6 who did not want to understand that Perl 5 was the glorious perfect thing and Perl 6 was a bastard rotten thing. Thank you very much. But it was just supposed to be a nickname.
I do not like myself to be described to be a slave-holder. Because that is what "Free, free at last" means. It was uttered by black slaves in the USA when they finally were told they were no longer slaves.
As I said, it was the final straw for me. Many straws before. I have tried often, and invested a lot of money, energy, time, effort, to get Perl 5 and Perl 6 to work together. I failed. I am a total failure. Thanks to the stubborn behaviour of Perl 5 people. So that is why I left the Perl 5 community.
I stayed with Perl 6. I continued promoting Perl. And yes, even Perl 5. I kept on selling Perl 5 books (even though more people were interested in Perl 6 books, often enough at conferences I sold ten times more Perl 6 books than Perl 5 books), give away stickers and buttons and tuits related to Perl 5.
At some point, people from Perl 6 started discussing changing the name of Perl 6 to something else, and at first, "Rakudo" was the main contender. I was against that, because I loved (and still love) Perl as a concept, as a worldwide community, as a programming language.
I told the people of Perl 6 that when they indeed would change the name to something not "Perl", my contributions would end. I have spent the better part of 15 years to reunite Perl 5 and Perl 6, spent quite some money on it, supported many initiatives, etc etc. Even got a White Camel Award for my (and Liz') work. I wrote some opinionated blogs about it.
They still went ahead and changed the name. That, and only than, was the reason I left Perl 6 aka Raku. Not because anything you said. Blah blah blah. Don't you ever again speak for me again.
And no, I do not hate people, I do not hate Matt, I consider myself still a friend of him, and would like to hang out again, but probably unfortunately will not happen soon.
I still have the camel "Meeltje" standing proudly in our hallway, next to the largest library of Perl books. I still have thousands of euros worth of swag (books, stickers, buttons, tuits, Camelia stuffed toy butterflies, etc) in my cellar, ready to bring to a new Perl & Raku Event, but thanks to covid19 it is not going to happen soon, and thanks to too many ego people the cooperation has failed.
I am terribly sad all this happened, and maybe some day I can get over it. Until then, you and many other people make me utterly sad. Oh, the anger has gone mostly, until you wrote what you wrote today.
Update:
Addition. I have to make something a bit more clear. The reason that I did not want to promote Raku, is that I want to promote Perl. As a family of languages, 5 & 6. Perl as a concept of versatility, there is more than one way to do it, as explorers of what can be possible, as fun in coding. I did not want to do all that over again for Raku. Even though Raku for me is still Perl 6, and therefore Perl. I just can't get myself to go make Raku stickers, Raku buttons, Raku tuits, Raku brochures, enthuse people to write Raku books, sponsor Raku conferences. Because it lacks the word Perl. Maybe some day.
I said you were misguided about "trusting the individual the Mojolicious org pointed at" and found this in recent disagreements, not that you were misguided about all of your disagreements.