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yellow1912

Laravel is like WordPress, it gets popular thanks to its fanciness. They keep adding cool things from here and there.

Symfony for me is industry standard, it's for serious projects that want to stick with with battle tested, well thought out platform.

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Mattia Sinisi

I agree with everyting except with the "Laravel is like Wordpress" bit.

Yes, Laravel is big and heavy if you want to use more features. You could very well build a lightweight performant application with only a few of it's features if you wanted to.

So, I view laravel as a nice wrapper to symfony with some cool new features, but yeah. symfony could be viewed as an industry standard or at least a starting point for any sort of project

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Jeremy Jacob Anderson

That's a very cynical view you have there, but it is also incomplete and contains at least three things that are flatly incorrect. Nevertheless, a very popular opinion to have. I assume you don't really believe that and just think it is what you're supposed to say. I could be totally wrong, feel free to elaborate on the specifics of your position.

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yellow1912

So I can not have my opinion then? If you think I'm wrong feel free to share your facts, it's your responsibility to convince me if you want to prove me wrong :).

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Mukul Mishra Author

Little modification required i think. Wp is CMS and laravel is framework that itself is a big difference because CMS has everything and you don't literally need to write code to run a website(until you have to put custom things) while laravel requires you to be a good PHP(with oops) developer 😀

There are some CMS built using laravel too incase you're referring that but fact is there's a huge difference between laravel and wordpress.

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Jeremy Jacob Anderson

I'm glad you have your opinion, the cool thing is that opinions are easier to change than your shoes. Here are three things in your opinion that I disagree with.

1) Laravel is not like WordPress - Laravel is a framework, WordPress is a CMS
2) WordPress and Laravel are not popular due to their "fanciness" - fanciness is not defined or implicitly meaningful.
3) Laravel is built on Symfony components - what makes you think it isn't battle tested or "serious?" This disproves itself. If "serious" projects are built with Symfony, and Laravel is built on Symfony by your stated logic Laravel should be assumed to be equally "serious" as Symfony.

Additionally, WordPress and Laravel became popular a decade apart, and the reasons for their popularity are completely distinct from one another, ten long years worth of distinction.

I could go on, but I won't. I will, however, apologize if my tone offends you. I can be insensitive in presenting my dissent, but I do mean to help us all to better understanding. There's a lot of superstition floating around and it makes me touchy.

The choice does not lie in which is a perfect solution for every case, but which are sufficient and in what specific ways for a specific case. WordPress is the right choice for some cases, as much as it pains me to say so. Laravel is a cult, but it is a cult I love. It is useful for many use cases I personally encounter. Real companies make real money with it, large public nonprofits educate children with it I'm not sure what's not "serious" nor what is so "fancy" about that. I also don't know why "fancy" was used pejoratively in your post, and I'm happy with never knowing. Best of luck learning about the wild world of web stuff, there's a lot to know.

[Edited to be slightly nicer, 1 day later.]

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Mukul Mishra Author

You explained nicely 👌

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Dan Tighe

Thank you for not going on Jeremy. Clearly we've been shown the light. How long and hard did you think you that post? I'm just curious

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Jeremy Jacob Anderson

I probably spent twenty or thirty minutes on it.

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Dan Tighe

Yeah why are you analyzing it Freud these are just opinions.

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Jeremy Jacob Anderson

Because the devil is in the details, Jung. :D

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Jeremy Jacob Anderson

Hey Dan, I'm in Idaho too, how about them apples?