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Aleksandr Kossarev
Aleksandr Kossarev

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The Day My AI Started Talking to Itself (And the Math Behind Why It Always Happens)

Have you ever built an AI assistant with memory, felt proud of it, then watched in horror as it slowly went insane?

Not "crashed" insane. Not "threw an exception" insane.

Subtly, gradually, conversationally insane.

Week 1: Everything's Fine ✓

Your AI mentions "finding balance in life" three times. Reasonable, right? It's good advice.

Week 4: Hmm, That's Weird ⚠️

"Balance" comes up 12 times. Still... maybe you've been stressed?

Week 8: Houston, We Have a Problem 🔥

Your AI has mentioned "balance" 35 times. In responses about coffee. About code reviews. About literally everything.

You check the logs. The AI isn't broken. It's working perfectly.

That's when you realize: Your AI is reading its own outputs as "important memories."

It's stuck in an echo chamber. Talking to itself.


The Universal Law Nobody Tells You

Here's what took me days to understand:

Every AI system with memory WILL eventually develop recursion.

Not "might." Not "could." WILL.

This isn't a bug in your code. It's not your framework. It's not your vector database.

It's mathematics.

The Recursion Equation

P(memory_retrieved) = (Importance × Relevance) / Time_decay

If Time_decay = 0 → P grows unbounded → Recursion
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In plain English: If old memories keep their importance forever, they'll dominate all future responses. Forever.

Why This Happens to EVERYONE

The Iron Law of Memory Systems:

ANY system where:
  1. Past outputs are stored ✓
  2. Past outputs can be retrieved ✓  
  3. Past outputs influence future outputs ✓

WILL eventually develop recursion
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Language doesn't matter (Python, JavaScript, Rust).

AI model doesn't matter (GPT, Claude, LLaMA, custom).

Architecture doesn't matter (SQL, vector DB, graph).

The problem is architectural, not technical.


How I Discovered This (The Hard Way)

I was building Archik — an AI assistant with long-term memory. The kind that remembers your preferences, past conversations, decisions.

The Dream: An AI that gets smarter over time.

The Reality: An AI that became increasingly... weird.

The Symptoms

  • Same phrases appearing again and again
  • Technical reports showing up in casual conversation
  • Old discussions dominating new topics
  • User complaints: "You keep bringing that up!"

The Diagnosis

I analyzed 5,000+ messages in the database. What I found shocked me:

My AI's own technical reports had importance scores of 0.95 (nearly maximum).

Why? They were long (2000+ characters), detailed, and mentioned important keywords.

The system saw them as "valuable memories."

But they were just debug output.

Every time the AI retrieved context, these reports came back. The AI read them, incorporated their style, and produced more reports in the same style.

Which got saved. With high importance. Which got retrieved again...

Classic recursion loop.


The Weight-Decay-Context Triangle

Every memory system operates in three dimensions:

        IMPORTANCE (Weight)
               ↑
               |
               |
    OLD ←──────┼──────→ NEW (Time)
               |
               |
               ↓
        RETRIEVAL (Context)
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Healthy System:

  • New memories have moderate weight
  • Old memories decay over time
  • Context balances past and present

Recursive System:

  • Old memories keep high weight
  • No temporal decay
  • Past dominates present

The math is simple: Static importance + No time decay = Guaranteed recursion.


The Solution: Three-Layer Defense

After debugging this for days, I realized you need multiple layers of protection. No single fix works.

Layer 1: Dynamic Importance (At Write Time)

Problem: Long messages automatically get high importance.

Solution: Penalize length, categorize content.

def calculate_importance(message):
    base = 0.5

    # Penalize excessive length
    if len(message) > 2000:
        base *= 0.3  # Technical report? Lower importance

    # Type matters
    if is_apology(message):
        return 0.1  # Apologies are transient
    if is_user_preference(message):
        return 0.9  # Preferences are critical

    return base
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Result: Technical reports no longer dominate memory.

Layer 2: Temporal Decay (Over Time)

Problem: 6-month-old memories have same weight as yesterday's.

Solution: Exponential decay based on age.

def apply_decay():
    for memory in database:
        days_old = today - memory.created_at

        if not memory.is_favorite:
            # 5% decay per day
            memory.importance *= (0.95 ** days_old)

        # Archive if too low
        if memory.importance < 0.1:
            archive(memory)
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Result: Old memories fade naturally, new stay relevant.

Layer 3: Automated Detection (Periodic Monitoring)

Problem: Recursion develops slowly. You won't notice until it's bad.

Solution: Automated pattern detection every 3 days.

def detect_recursion():
    recent = get_last_50_messages()
    themes = extract_themes(recent)

    for theme, frequency in themes.items():
        if frequency > 0.35:  # Appears in >35% of messages
            # Find and lower importance of old messages
            old_messages = find_old_messages(theme, days=7)
            for msg in old_messages:
                msg.importance *= 0.3

            log_intervention(theme, frequency)
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Result: Catches problems before user complains.


Real Results: Before and After

Before Fix:

Analysis of 5,000 messages:
- "balance" mentioned: 35 times/week
- Technical reports in context: 70%
- User satisfaction: Frustrated
- Diversity score: 0.28 (low)
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After Fix:

Same system, 2 weeks later:
- "balance" mentioned: 3 times/week  
- Technical reports in context: 5%
- User satisfaction: Happy
- Diversity score: 0.62 (healthy)
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Time to implement: ~3 hours of focused work.

Lines of code changed: ~200.

Impact: System completely stable.


The Dashboard That Saved Me

You can't fix what you can't measure. Here's what I monitor:

┌─────────────────────────────────────┐
│ AI Memory Health Dashboard          │
├─────────────────────────────────────┤
│ Total Messages: 5,247               │
│ Avg Importance: 0.38 ✓              │
│                                     │
│ Distribution:                       │
│   Low (0-0.3):    42% ✓            │
│   Medium (0.3-0.5): 33% ✓          │
│   High (0.5-1.0):  25% ✓           │
│                                     │
│ Retrieval Stats:                    │
│   Never retrieved:  68% ✓           │
│   Retrieved 1-5x:   24% ✓           │
│   Retrieved 5+:     8% ⚠            │
│                                     │
│ Recent Detections:                  │
│   Issues found: 0 ✓                 │
│   Last scan: 2 days ago             │
└─────────────────────────────────────┘
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Target metrics:

  • Average importance: 0.35-0.40
  • Never retrieved: 60-70%
  • Theme diversity: >0.4

If these drift, recursion is developing.


Three Key Insights

1. Recursion is Mathematical, Not Technical

You can't "fix" it with a patch. It's an architectural property of systems with:

  • Memory storage
  • Retrieval mechanisms
  • Feedback loops

Solution: Design for decay from day one.

2. Importance Must Be Dynamic

Static importance scores guarantee eventual recursion.

The fix: Importance should depend on:

  • Content type
  • Age
  • Retrieval frequency
  • User feedback

3. You Need Automated Monitoring

Humans can't detect gradual recursion. It develops over weeks.

The fix: Periodic automated scans with alerts.


Your Checklist: Is Your AI at Risk?

Ask yourself three questions:

1. Do old memories keep their importance forever?

  • If yes: You WILL develop recursion eventually
  • Fix: Implement temporal decay

2. Do long messages get high importance automatically?

  • If yes: Technical outputs will dominate
  • Fix: Penalize length, categorize content

3. Are you monitoring for repetitive patterns?

  • If no: Recursion is developing silently right now
  • Fix: Add automated detection

The Bigger Picture

As we build more AI systems with memory (and we all are), this pattern will become more common.

The good news: It's preventable. Solvable. With relatively simple architecture changes.

The bad news: Most developers won't realize they have recursion until users complain.

Don't be that developer.


Want the Full Technical Deep-Dive?

This article covers the key insights and practical solutions. If you want the complete technical architecture, all the code patterns, edge cases, and scaling strategies:

📄 Full PSP on GitHub Gist

Includes:

  • 5-layer defense architecture
  • Detailed code examples
  • Case studies from production
  • Monitoring and metrics guide
  • Common pitfalls and solutions

Let's Discuss

Have you encountered memory recursion in your AI systems? What was your "aha!" moment?

Or are you building something with memory right now? I'm happy to discuss architecture approaches in the comments! 👇


About the writing process: I documented this using Claude AI as my technical writing assistant. English isn't my first language, and AI helps me share complex technical concepts with the global dev community. All architecture, code, and insights come from solving this problem in production. I've tried to present these principles clearly and hope they'll be useful to others working in this field.


Tags: #ai #architecture #memory #Recursion

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