I have been wresting with the so-called "imposter syndrome" for a couple of years now. I gave up on coding for a little while and then came back, j...
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I had to save this article, but I wish I had some other clever and convenient way of “pinning” this article, because I struggle with this a lot of the time, and ha such a great input from you, and all the devs commenting this 😄 I guess everyone has their own way of dealing with impostor syndrome, and it can be really demotivating… but, with the right people around you, sometimes a little push can do miracles 😎 and also making friends with the fact that you have this struggle, it might also help. You know, not looking at it as an “enemy”, but rather a company. It will always be there, but you just have to learn how to give it less credit when it can be ignored, and then it becomes part of the “landscape” eventually 😁 imo, this kind of articles sometimes help “solve” even the trickiest technical challenge, because, if others out there are like me, sometimes it influences the way you handle a particular problem, and once you have gathered the courage to not give a damn about impostor syndrome for a moment and just believe in yourself, you will be able to solve it.
I appreciate your excellent reply! I totally agree on you on the way of saving articles on here. There should have been another more convenient way of doing this to easier find them again when you need them later, I surely miss that! I intend to share your suggestion shortly 🙂
I agree with you. Being aware of that there is other people who also struggle with the same thing as you do, certainly helps. Yes, excellent advice. Thank you! 😀
You need to consider many things as this is a psychological phenomenon:
On the other hand I have a checklist for you:
If so, you are not an imposter. The first of my question is the most important though. Attitude for writing obvious code will eventually outperform all so called "quick learners" and "hackers".
Thank you so much for your comment!
Good luck in your path! You are not alone and we are here to help! #devsolidarity
Thank you! I appreciate it! 😀
so many little minds with giant egos want to put Elon Musk down, where they don't offer a thing to humanity, just servicing their own selfish needs through the duration of their lifespan: producing carbon emissions, massive plastic (non-biodegradable) waste, e-junk, bad karma, and shitty articles (like this one)
One tip from me is that the symptoms do eventually fade over time, maybe not entirely, but they fade.
People will empathetically let you know that they also "still" feel imposter syndrome even if they are very experienced. This may be true, but the other side of the coin is that it definitely goes away to some degree, which is something you can look forward to.
I think knowing there is a light at the end of the tunnel is helpful.
Thank you so much!
This is such a great topic, Anita. You start up so many good discussions!
So, I recently dropped a pretty detailed response to a post titled "If you are not a developer, how can you gain respect on Dev.to?" where I talked a bit about my struggle with imposter syndrome as a non-technical person working in a highly technical community. I'll embed it here as I think it applies well enough. 🙂
First off, I'd just like to note that I'm a Community Manager here at DEV and have been working here for ~5 years, but I'm not a developer. There have been moments where I have felt extreme imposter syndrome — like what the heck am I doing being a Community Manager for a community of software developers when I'm not one myself. But, over time I've grown to feel more comfortable and see the unique value and strengths that I can bring to the table.
As for gaining respect as a non-developer, here are a few tips that I'd suggest:
Be yourself. It's best to honest about what you know and what you don't know. I'm not a developer and I don't have any plans to be one — I make that known often. For instance, when I'm talking about something that is technical and perhaps a bit out of my realm (e.g. when I'm responding to someone's post here on DEV) I often start by saying "I'm not a developer" whenever asking my question, sharing my thoughts, or daring to give advice, haha.
Treat others with respect. The old line “you have to give respect to get respect" really rings true. Conversations online sometimes spin out of control because of a multitude of reasons: there's no body language to read, folks from different cultures encounter each other and don't understand each others' norms, folks are used to trolls and can be defensive, etc. I think if folks just took a little while longer to think about what they're saying, how they're saying it, and how it might be received by who they're saying it to, then there wouldn't be as many conflicts.
Be clear about your intentions. If you're not a developer and you're here, why are you here. Are you hoping to learn to be a developer? Are you trying to learn more about developers and what they're talking about? Are you interested in tech in general? Are you in the tech industry? Do you work for a developer-focused company that maybe sells tools to developers? Whatever it is that you're doing, it's just good to be clear about what brings you here. This kinda gets back to #1.
Play by the rules. If you're going to use the website DEV, then just make sure that you're following all of the rules. For instance, if you're sharing a post, I'd be careful to use tags that fit the content of the post. Consider this, a lot of folks are following tags to try and see posts that fit their interests... if you use tags incorrectly, this could be annoying to folks because they'll think that you're misusing the site to try and gain more attention.
Engage with folks sincerely. I might sound like a broken record, but this really goes back to #1 and #3, if you pay attention to the things that folks say in their posts and/or comments and respond to them genuinely, typically folks are going to appreciate that. They'll know that you took the time to engage with them. Of course, you need to keep #2 in mind — be respectful and empathetic — but so long as you do that, most people are going to appreciate it.
Some folks may still be disrespectful but they aren't really worth your time. Even if you do all of the above, unfortunately, there will likely still be some folks in the mix who are still rude and disrespectful. My advice is don't let it go you down. If someone is acting that way, it's most likely a problem with them, not you. I'd advise to please report them, consider blocking them, and don't bother talking with them anymore. We're not cool with gatekeeperly behavior and if we agree that it crosses the line of what's acceptable via our Code of Conduct, we will intervene appropriately.
Hope these points are helpful and feel free to hit me up if you have any questions!
My internal dialog flips between "This is great - I'm a real coder - I'm amazing" (when I code something and it works, usually after lots of debugging, mind you) and "I'll never be a real iOS Developer - I'll never get a job at it - and if I do I will flail and fail - I'm too slow - I don't grasp all the fundamentals - everyone can see my code is a complete mess" (usually when I'm applying for jobs.)
It helps me to focus on what I've accomplished. I saw that you posted to this week's "what was your win?" post (that's what brought me here).
I posted there too, and until I really thought about it, I was feeling pretty down about this week; there are so many things on my list I didn't get to. Progress always feels slow to me. But posting made me realize I got more things done than I was giving myself credit for. I often skip that post because I don't feel like I have anything to say, but this is a big mistake. I think it's necessary to acknowledge our own accomplishments, however small. Otherwise the (untrue) feeling of making no progress can become very overwhelming.
I can see you're struggling with a lot of external obstacles. Some weeks just sitting down at the computer is an accomplishment. The pace at which you move forward is not entirely up to you. We are all limited by our circumstances. We all have interruptions to the process. None of that makes you "not a coder." As long as you are putting in the effort to keep learning over the long haul, you are the real deal.
Also, you do not have to be the greatest coder to be taken seriously. Of course a lot of people are way better than you. EVERY coder in the world can say that about themselves; no one person is the best at everything. Why do you deserve the swag? Because you were there and you put in the effort and you liked it. Instead of thinking of the thousand people who are better coders than you, think of the billions of people who would run away screaming in terror at the very thought of trying to understand this stuff. That's almost every person I've ever known in my life. That's why I'm a coder and they're not.
Finally, dump X. Just get out of there - it's a toxic wasteland of negativity and misinformation. You don't need that in your life. There are plenty of ways outside of X to connect with other coders. I will never go back to it. That's just my personal take. I know it's easier said than done.
Hang in there! The bottom line is, do you love to code? Then you're a coder!
Yeah X is not typically the most encouraging place on the internet. It's full of a bunch of people who'd like to try and bring themselves up by putting others down. I don't even bother reading comments on most posts, it's a firestorm of sarcasm and hateful comments.
I read these comments and I generally agree with most of the points made.
I'd like to highlight a few that were/are part of my own experience:
I suffer from this most of the days, even after being in this field for 9 years. I t is quite common tha you think.
What worked for me, is trying to do better each day, even if the task took me a bit long, but getting it done.
Don't be hard on yourself. Just try a bit harder each day :)
Aw. Thank you SO much for your comment! 🙂
Welcome to DEV by the way! 😊
Wow, I hope you're feeling better. With respect to "I kept thinking that I should have known more than I already do, I should have done more than I already have and I should have learned faster than I already do." I think maybe you're going about this a bit wrong.
There's always going to be something you don't know. Learning is a life-long process, and nobody can claim to know everything. You have to get comfortable with not knowing, and comfortable with the confidence that you're great at what you already know.
I never heard about this syndrome -_-
Wow, I am surprised you have not heard about it before! It is common among software developers.
Yeah never heard of, is it dangerous?