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Udemy Needs to Review Courses and Vet Instructors

Ashlee (she/her) on September 17, 2019

Cover image alt: Header reading the this blog post's title. The background is a large lecture hall with light brown, wooden chairs and white walls....
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Ryan Carter

That doesn't really answer the question at all. There are a lot of awful things out there, but this isn't the kind of thing that helps anyone develop.

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Mahesh K

Udemy does not even do some sort of vetting process to see if the video uploader is genuine. I see a lot of videos being copied from youtube. Which is so wrong for those channel creators.

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Ashlee (she/her)

It's sad! Udemy needs to do WAY better.

 
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mnivoliez

As any dev and ops should now, housekeeping is needed. In our project, on our server, in our database etc... We track any code smell, any misuse of variable name, any bug, any old revision that should have been stopped long ago, we try to get rid as much useless data as possible. I see now reason why our community should not have any use of housekeeping. I do not wish to see any sexist thought or any racial division in tech community for a dev is a dev. As such, content promoting that you could "hack a woman brain" is first forbidden by alot of laws as manipulation is not really a legal thing, second why a woman brain? are they more easier? Those kind of idea are just brought by the title, I let you imagine the rest of the course. Honestly, I would agree with any course called "how to find your codemate, or how to find the best match for pair programming" but not how "I can with my super programming power hijack the brain of this girl". That reductive for the women and for us as developer.
At least I believe.

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mnivoliez

On a side note, this kind of content seems appropriate since dev.to put up "Yet she coded" (I believe it the name of the post series? I may have it wrong) and as such position itself on the non discrimination of gender in tech related topic.

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Jenna King

One thing I'd love to see Udemy get better at is checking the quality of the captioning their instructors slap on their courses. Some of it is so, so awful. I've complained to Udemy about it but the general gist of their response was, 'hey at least it's captioned!'. Well ... it kinda defeats the point if you can't understand the captioning in the first place!

So, yeah this doesn't surprise me in the least.

 
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Ashlee (she/her)

This can't be simplified to some people being upset about dating courses. It's not a dating course. It's a course about how to manipulate women and perpetuates the mentality that men are entitled to women's bodies and attention. I've said multiple times: A LOT of devs use Udemy. But I'm done repeating myself just because you disagree about the need to alert folks to what kind of danger Udemy can be.

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Ashlee (she/her)

Do you want to see posts here about my medical issues?

Yeah, actually. People love that shit! Check out this post I wrote that has almost 100 reactions and over 1500 views:

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Ashlee (she/her)

Because this site is for a specific type of person and specific types of content that benefit many (if not all) of us. All of these things have their place online but not here.

You have been here for less than a month. I encourage you to explore this site a little bit more. The content goes far beyond technical topics.

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Ryan Carter

So I should expect to be attacked every time for sharing an opinion on a post. New-comers it. Got it.

 
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Ryan Carter

"Dating" is an over-simplification I suppose but it was in quotes (meaning that isn't really the true subject), but even that isn't the point. You still haven't answered my question. How is this related to developers/designers? How is this helpful? You offer no alternatives or ideas for bettering the situation. Just bashing a platform (for valid reasons, sure). I just don't see the value in it for a dev community. I don't come here to be an army to attack someone else doing terrible stuff. Why don't we attack YouTube because devs can no longer make money on there because of their weird new rules? This site isn't about that. It isn't useful or helpful.

I don't appreciate being attacked for my opinion as stated either.

Have you read the code of conduct here? "Gracefully accepting constructive criticism" and "Focusing on what is best for the community."

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Ali Thompson

This kind of content valuable to me, it's valuable to Ashlee, it's valuable to a whole heck of a lot of women developers who learned things on Udemy. If they allow this sort of stuff onto the site, what's the quality of the tech courses I've taken?

And no one is attacking you.

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Baskarrao Dandlamudi • Edited

Yes it is clear that udemy does not do proper house keeping. I had this few days before. twitter.com/baskarmib/status/11726...

 
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Ryan Carter

Public speaking, applying to jobs, and daily productivity are all related to development, I'd say intrinsically. Why a platform sucks by offering "dating" courses is not at all relevant. Unless dating becomes something you do as part of the development lifecycle (you train an AI on your bad dates perhaps) then it doesn't make sense. I could talk about how YouTube sucks right now or how twitter is full of hate, and though I -- as a developer -- use them for development things, it isn't very helpful or useful for the majority of people here on a DEV site to talk about those platforms without at least mentioning that I am using them as a dev and why it matters to devs/designers. It just seems like pointing out that Udemy has quality issues and scumbag losers on it is suited more toward a more general audience.