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GitLab joined legalized discrimination. Why does no one talk about this?

Hamed on October 09, 2020

This article originally posted on my Medium. U.S. government force companies like Amazon, Slack, GitHub, GitLab to apply systematic online segrega...
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ItsThatHexagonGuy • Edited

I've been hearing about this as well, and from what I've read this has less to do with GitLab or any company and more to do with the fact that they are US-based so they must follow any rule that their government enforces.

That part is beyond what we can change but I think the fact that there is no notice period to backup your stuff is unnecessary and can be changed.

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Akash Kava

It’s not that simple, every software has many dependencies on other companies, if one component is banned, entire chain of software is banned. This is against free communication and it is legal bully for every other country except US.

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Thibault Milan • Edited

That's why China is creating their own Github like service. To prevent any U.S. disruption in the likely scenario where Github & Gitlab will be forced also to cut access to Chinese people from their services :(

It's really sad to see a company like Gitlab (which have European entities that would be able to provide such services without having ton comply to U.S. law), especially since they were advertising themself as "less evil" and "more open" than Github :/

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webbureaucrat

China itself has more than once launched massive DDOS attacks against GitHub in hopes of taking GitHub offline, so it doesn't make any sense to say that the main reason why they're building their own site is to prevent US censorship. wired.com/story/github-ddos-memcac...

China is building their own git hosting site so they can block the others.

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Thibault Milan

Don't mistake Chinese gov. from Chinese companies. That's not the government that is building a GitHub-like platform. Plus you are talking about something happened in 2015, your source said the 2018 hack can't be linked to the Chinese gov.

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dvaraujo

This is ridiculous! I've been reading about this and the shady Github contracts with U.S. immigration agencies and let me tell you: if we don't move to a decentralized internet (as is supposed to be and was before) we are doomed. What scare me the most it's the Amazon situation, It's simply against the central idea of the internet. It's just a shame, really. Hamed, I hope you can get your work back. Be strong. Keep fighting

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Junxiao Shi

We are too scared to talk about this. FBI would come with liquid nitrogen and confiscate all our devices.

You can install a private Gitea instance and host your repositories there.

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Hamed

Ok. I get it. But let me be more clear about "blocking": If they block your account, you don't access to your code even with VPN (change of IP). so there is no data to import in that "private Gitea instance"

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R Z

I also store all my repositories on a portable device and feel a bit safer.

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Junxiao Shi

Import from your local backup.

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Hamed

What if you don't have a local backup (old project perhaps)? What about issues? Merge requests? Labels and all other data?

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Junxiao Shi

If you don't have backup, it means the data isn't important to you.

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Hamed • Edited

Come on! Do you really have a backup of your repository issues?

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Junxiao Shi

Issues including their comments are in my email inbox.

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🦄N B🛡 • Edited

FBI would come with liquid nitrogen and confiscate all our devices.

Or they'll just raid your house and shoot your dogs.

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e1cb4 ac37s

Actually nobody gives a single f*ck about your problems. I say it from Crimea. Our position is better still, no (or at least I don't feel them) domestic "sanctions". It's kinda funny reading about jamstack, cloud certs and whole saas/iaas shiny things and not being able to use them. Well, there are opportunities to "bypass" those walls, still you have to live with assumption that some time you get caught being crimean, banned and everithing is gone.

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Benny Powers 🇮🇱🇨🇦 • Edited

The Ayatollah legally bars Iranians from doing business with me, because I'm a Jewish Israeli, are we going to talk about that?

github.com/armancodes/laravel-down...

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Hamed

Sure. Let's talk about that too. The difference is no one from Israel rely on Iranian platforms but both people of Iran and Israel rely on U.S. tech companies like GitHub and Gitlab so when U.S. tech companies decide to target people by nationality and block them without prior notice (beyond legal obligations) that is alarming for the software community

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Benny Powers 🇮🇱🇨🇦

Did you read the Link I sent?

The Iranian government discriminates against Israelis in exactly the same way that you object to the US government doing against Iranians.

If you object to the US' sanctions against Iran on the basis that they are discriminatory, how do you then justify the Atatollah's antisemitism?

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Itachi Uchiha

In 2019, I wrote a post about GitLab's approach.

dev.to/aligoren/what-do-you-think-...

I don't like these kinds of things.

So what can we do? I don't know what to do. Because the U.S. is the new EVIL GOD of this world.

GitLab is a global product but decisions aren't. So, should we afraid about the future? I think yes because we don't have a chance to choose our allies or enemies.

When a politician say John Doe is a terrorist, everything should be closed to him immediately.

I don't support Iranian politicians or American politicians. Actually, I don't support any politicians over this world.

Because their decisions are not my decisions. But laws work by their decisions.

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🦄N B🛡 • Edited

I foresee the same fate for the Chinese Communist Party.

It is, indeed, legalized discrimination, and it's well within the bounds of the USA Constitution and international norms to declare embargoes or sanctions on countries whose governments are deemed to great a threat.

I'm fairly sure the poor slaves in North Korea have to suffer the same, innocent bystanders and the criminals such an embargo is meant to target alike.

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Yogi

Hamed can you create a GitLab repo and let us all sign together!

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Hamed

Thank you for your support. Actually, last year when GitHub decided to block Iranians, we create a repo (more than 12K stars, one of the Trend repositories back in 2019, translated to 18 languages, supported by developers around the world) but it didn't work. They don't listen to us.

Here is that repository: github.com/1995parham/github-do-no...

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Yogi

Ooof! There is no other way?

GitHub and GitLab need to move their HQ to Europe 😅, that might help us!

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coelicidium

This is not acceptable at all. We should group together and make this go viral. Let's organize.

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Hamed

Thank you for your support. Help us spread the word

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Teclado

I had never thought about it, and it's ridiculous at least. But I have to answer you with a "tell it to a cuban". This absurd is neither new nor unexpected from the government of a country with great people (great when isolated in their fields) without any political criteria.

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sekab

Totally agree with this