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But now my life will suffer if I use 👌at conference or in a tweet.
But really, this is what worries me: You assume I'm not being compassionate towards others simply because I disagree with the approach. And from that, it is logical to end the conversation. It's one thing to agree to disagree, but to accuse someone of lacking compassion is entirely different. Now I'm a bad person who you probably shouldn't associate with anymore. And if I'm a bad person, I probably shouldn't be allowed in the industry, or at least to give talks at conferences. It's not that far of a stretch. All because I believe that it's not in the best interest of anyone to give up our language to white supremacists.
Urrrgh there are plenty of times in life where what someone is asking for can provide temporary relief but long term suffering.
Please just think things through a little more.
Of course becoming less fragile is the best way to be, if you need temporary protection that should be offered, but to be protected for life hurts the individual and the communities they touch.
I think we miss the point if we limit discussion to the co-opting of the OK sign by white nationalists; though I can believe that there are many (especially outside the US) who genuinely don't know the significance it has gained. It's a tough call whether to resist this or just avoid its use.
Kevin you said:
I believe that it's not in the best interest of anyone to give up our language
On this I don't agree. Our language has been formed by - and perpetuates - historical biases. It is absolutely in our interest to remove those biases wherever possible. It's perhaps not realistic to simply erase all problematic language; but when someone tells you that the language you use is harmful to them, that's not something that should simply be dismissed.
However I do think that focusing on the OK symbol trivialises the issue here. The point is that someone who tried to draw attention to the effects of a long history of bias in our culture was the victim of exactly what she described.
Aaron - it's simplistic to accuse Tatiana Mac of having a tantrum for leaving the industry if you haven't been subjected to that level of abuse and haven't suffered the effects of Western society's inherent racism your entire life. Maybe you have? I haven't; but I still think it's far more appropriate to condemn the people who trolled her.
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But now my life will suffer if I use 👌at conference or in a tweet.
But really, this is what worries me: You assume I'm not being compassionate towards others simply because I disagree with the approach. And from that, it is logical to end the conversation. It's one thing to agree to disagree, but to accuse someone of lacking compassion is entirely different. Now I'm a bad person who you probably shouldn't associate with anymore. And if I'm a bad person, I probably shouldn't be allowed in the industry, or at least to give talks at conferences. It's not that far of a stretch. All because I believe that it's not in the best interest of anyone to give up our language to white supremacists.
Urrrgh there are plenty of times in life where what someone is asking for can provide temporary relief but long term suffering.
Please just think things through a little more.
Of course becoming less fragile is the best way to be, if you need temporary protection that should be offered, but to be protected for life hurts the individual and the communities they touch.
You don’t get to police how oppressed people feel.
I think we miss the point if we limit discussion to the co-opting of the OK sign by white nationalists; though I can believe that there are many (especially outside the US) who genuinely don't know the significance it has gained. It's a tough call whether to resist this or just avoid its use.
Kevin you said:
On this I don't agree. Our language has been formed by - and perpetuates - historical biases. It is absolutely in our interest to remove those biases wherever possible. It's perhaps not realistic to simply erase all problematic language; but when someone tells you that the language you use is harmful to them, that's not something that should simply be dismissed.
However I do think that focusing on the OK symbol trivialises the issue here. The point is that someone who tried to draw attention to the effects of a long history of bias in our culture was the victim of exactly what she described.
Aaron - it's simplistic to accuse Tatiana Mac of having a tantrum for leaving the industry if you haven't been subjected to that level of abuse and haven't suffered the effects of Western society's inherent racism your entire life. Maybe you have? I haven't; but I still think it's far more appropriate to condemn the people who trolled her.