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Discussion on: Quiet Quitting is About Loyalty

 
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Lolwut

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"Jobs often expect loyalty from us."
"A company needs to declare loyalty as its value..."
"A corporation should stand behind an employee..."
"... you can’t develop trust and good working conditions, without building that culture from the top-down."
"Why show loyalty to a company that will fire you in an instant... Quiet quitting becomes an easy way out"

An awful lot of focus on company / corp in article supposedly about individual loyalties. In the context of "quiet quitting" an individual loyalty should have no bearing on another individual's actions in this regard unless the loyalty is to a person serving as a representative of the company, which is the only entity in this scenario that stands to gain from a shift in this behavior. Your distinction is meaningless in this context.

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Shai Almog

Because loyalty starts from the corporation even though it isn't directed towards it. The managers I had that presented those excellent qualities were supported by a corporation that helped them. They were backed by corporate policies that enabled this. Their managers show similar loyalty to them and it goes up all the way to the C suite.

If I'm loyal to the manager I'll go above and beyond for that person and I know they will do the same for me since they have in the past.

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Lolwut

Uh huh. So you’re β€œgoing above and beyond” for that person acting as an agent of the corporation. This is a meaningless distinction.

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Shai Almog

That's your opinion and I respect that. I feel corporations are basically just a collection of people. They aren't a democracy though, but they can do a lot of good when they're run right. I agree that especially in USA, the incentives are to run corporations "badly".

Personally I'm a very left leaning socialist. I'm pro union. Pro workers rights. Pro democracy and progressive taxation. I'm not against corporations though. I think they can be great when we have good regulators on top of them and good employees within them.

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Lolwut

If you're for corporations you're not a socialist. It's in the literal definition OMG.

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Shai Almog

Not the definition. Sweden, Finland, etc. have multiple large corporations and are socialist democracies. You're thinking about communism.

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Lolwut

Social democracy != socialism you absolute liberal.