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Locked-down? Try Upwork!

Lucas Leon on September 19, 2020

I have read many articles focusing on the negative aspects of Upwork, whilst I agree there are some negative factors about the platform, there are ...
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Cliff

So you worked the equivalent of full time with 2 weeks off per year -- a full year of work at 40 hours per week is 2080 hours including paid time off -- for about the same income you could have made with a full time position, with the added "benefit" of constantly having to find and compete for new work. And in some countries (like the USA) you also have to pay the employer side of payroll taxes since you were self-employed or a contractor/freelancer.

Sounds like Upwork's model is still broken (for workers) to me, unless you're working from a country where $125K/year before any taxes is more than you can make working full time on-site or remote. I guess if you only have a few years of experience but can do better work than your experience suggests, and can fight successfully for the jobs, it would be a good way to boost your income earlier in your career while still having experience to put on your resume. But for someone like you with lots of experience, you'd be better off finding a remote position or taking a tech/dev lead position.

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Karl N. Redman • Edited

Nice advertising. Send me $100 and I'll tell you what I really think after 25 years in the biz. Either this is bullshit or it's real.

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Lucas Leon

I am not advertising here. It's true fact and it will work for everyone if he/she works hard enough. Rules and guidelines are important too. I am thinking of opening a personal service personally working with hard-workers to guide them onto the platform.

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Steve Harris

Lucas Leon
Sorry, but i agree with the nay sayers. Work hard for someone who will pay you better. Fresh out of college with CS degree and no job. Sure, go ahead and spend some time on Upwork or similar platform. If you actually have Dev experience, get a job and make more, instead of supporting the cheapskates. Or get real about being in business for yourself!

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Lucas Leon

Thanks for your comment, and working hard on what you are doing - that works every time for me. Whether it's upwork or own business, working hard always pays off.

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Karl N. Redman

Tracked you: Still bullshit.

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pratikthorat8

Nice Post. Loved the way you kept the details neat and to the point. But I have a question. I am fairly new and can build websites only using HTML5 and CSS3 (responsive websites). So should I still make a profile on Up-work or do I need to have more skills and better projects to make a profile ?

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Steve Harris • Edited

Good question, pratikthorat8
My opinion is, do not bother. The guy with many years of dev experience is only getting $125,000. per year, with no benefits. Front end jobs start for a little less but you get social security paid by the employer and health benefits paid by the employer. At least in the US. CSS and HTML only with no js you will spend way too much time looking and get only a few low paid jobs.

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Lucas Leon

Need to consider there is a starting curve at beginning like for 6 months and getting hot in next 6 months etc. It won't be /4 to be exact ;)

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TendToRead

Great post, but I think some time free trial also work, if people interested then it also get chance to convert.

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Lucas Leon

Actually, it might depends, but it's against the principle. I met a guy who asked me to do a trial test job. In the end, it turned out he was building his app changing devs taking advantage of a week each for trial.

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Yurii

I'd say it may work out outside the platform, but upwork is about on demand services so no regular job security and perks.

Also, Upwork's TOS explicitly prohibits it:
upwork.com/legal#examplesof

Fraudulent or misleading uses or content, including:

  • Requesting or demanding free services, including requesting Freelancers to submit work as part of the proposal process for very little or no money or posting contests in which Freelancers submit work with no or very little pay, and only the winning submission is paid the full amount;

Also it includes:

If you become aware of any violation of these Site Terms or Use, you must immediately report it to Customer Service.

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Steve Harris

no i agree with the author. Do Not Do Free Work. You hurt yourself and everyone else competing for work. Everyone loses, except, of course, the buyer who paid nothing.

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HGHULFG1

I tried to submitt my profile many times and they didnt accept it !

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Andrey Ramnikov

I had the same issue with 5 years devops experience.

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Lucas Leon

It's up to you anyways, but I believe Upwork is the #1 freelancing market place in the world.

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Andrew Baisden

Still not totally convinced by Upwork, job boards seem to have my activity.