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Discussion on: The Web I Want

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Chris James

I do remember the days of A list apart, CSS Zen Garden and Eric Meyer's website :D

It was so good, it felt like a real positive movement for the web

ps. dev.to is a SPA but I tried to write and post this comment after disabling JavaScript on Firefox (whose setting is buried in about:config :D) and I got an error, which is fine, SPAs are not supposed to work without JS...

I do mean to host this post on my own blog when I get home!

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Ben Halpern

I basically agree with all of what you said. We made some pragmatic choices along the way to serve an experience which mostly works and serves an efficient experience for 95% of requests.

Not to defend the bad, but things are overall pretty okay. Specifically, the chat feature and other generally "live" features are pretty much entirely responsible for some of this JS dependence.

Anyway, you'd be happy to hear that now that we're open source, we're pruning some of the bloat that kind of just made its way in when we were pushing a bit too hard to cram in the features folks were demanding. Our approach has returned to a much more principled one.

Anyway, just wanted to address this from my perspective. I'm spiritually aligned, but we've got some work to do. Eventually I'd like to offer various configurations that would allow folks to turn off certain features in order to run differently in different scenarios.

:)