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A web-based desktop environment

shmuelhizmi on July 17, 2020

For the last 2 weeks I have been working on a new project of mine called "web desktop environment" (temporary name) and now I finally feel like the...
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Mike

Great idea, I wrote about my cloud-based development environment on my blog at mikenikles.com/blog/why-i-use-a-cl...

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shmuelhizmi

I agree it's really is a good idea for most developers to start working on a cloud-based IDE especially if your a node/web developer,
I also have a little project of mine called NotNotePad which is a web-based code editor (it currently is running completely on your browser FS so not exactly a cloud-based IDE) but I sure do have plans to add support for connecting to a server filesystem + terminal in the future.

the only problem for me and the main reason I don't switch yet to a cloud-based IDE is that I still do a bit of desktop and windows 10 specific development in my job.

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Mike

Very cool, with some of the latest web APIs to access the local file system, this makes a lot of sense. Well done developing NotNotePad!

You're right, there are some limitations to cloud-based IDEs. Also for native mobile app development it's not quite ready yet.

It's exciting to see the innovation in this space!

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Matthieu Cneude

I'm curious: why would you avoid the command line at the first place?

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shmuelhizmi • Edited

great question, most people won't I'm myself would probably even prefer using the terminal in some cases. BUT having a full desktop environment also has a few pluses like an easy to use look or a one-season advantage (ssh instances can get lost very easy at least for me while a desktop environment always stays in place).

you can be sure I'm not trying to say consoles are bad and we should always ditch them for a desktop environment, it's just that people have moved passed an only terminal interface for there PCs in the '90s and as a result - PCs have become more mainstream, I'm just saying it's maybe time to also give the server a more desktop environment like interface (and maybe they can become more mainstream).
and if we can't do so using a sort of display server then maybe the web can work :)

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Matthieu Cneude

That's an interesting approach. As a developer, I deal mostly with plain text, and I think it's difficult to beat the shell for that. It's easier to automate, too, and I want my servers to be as automated as possible.

I love GUIs for everything visual, like video editing, photography processing, and so on. I wouldn't use that for my servers, but, of course, everybody is different. If your prefer GUIs in your workflow, why not.

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shmuelhizmi

Thanks, a demo will be a great idea I will definitely consider doing so, as for a video I will start working on it!

and yes "Synology's DiskStation Manager" does look a lot similar, there are actually a few projects who tried to do something similar.

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Daniel Ziltener • Edited

"Let's force and shoehorn EVERYTHING into a browser! Doesn't that idea sound amazing??"

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Mike Bybee • Edited

"Let's crap on a young developer's hard work (with the admirable goal of making things easier for the uninitiated through technology they're already familiar with, rather than the CLEARLY superior approach of screaming 'RTFM!' at them for the gazillionth time like a crotchety, condescending curmudgeon), with nothing of actual value to add to the discussion! Doesn't that idea sound amazing??"

How does one rise to the level of lead developer, let alone CTO, with such people "skills?" Because I've always found that - at any level of dev advancement - uplifting and acknowledging the potential in (and positive contributions of) my peers (and they're always peers, regardless of the org chart), and offering constructive criticism, are critical.

Great job, @shmuelhizmi

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shmuelhizmi

Almost 5 months later and I'm still developing this project in some of my weekends.

this is a picture of the project running in a PWA native like app with a new nord theme.

today

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Matthew Alicea

This is awesome! Very cool to see how others are thinking of new ways to extend web technologies. I was just talking to a buddy of mine recently about how it'd be cool to be able to "hack" my desktop GUI using web technologies, but I hadn't at all considered an entire desktop environment built on web tech.

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Ben Halpern

This is cool!

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Daniel Ziltener

the browser is an awesome runtime environment for many conceivable projects

Now that's just your Stockholm syndrome talking.

this is a private pet project. These have values beyond the mere pratical.

Yea, that is true. I just find it a very odd choice. That's all. As long as you end up learning the right things from it, why not?

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Chukwuemeka Igbokwe

This is really cool.

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Kade Powell

Name should be "web den"

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Banji

Keep it up Shmuel
I hope to see more cool projects like this from you ;)
Good luck
happy coding

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shmuelhizmi

Thanks and I hope you will :)

 
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shmuelhizmi

sound cool :)

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shmuelhizmi

cool is it open source ? is so I would like to take a look.

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Daniel Ziltener

I think it is somewhat of a case of "If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail".