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444 Days Later, Tori Hit the Jackpot

Tori Crawford on July 16, 2020

If you've been following me for a while, you know that I had been searching for a job for quite some time, 444 days to be exact. Thankfully, I have...
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David • Edited

Congrats, Victoria! FireHydrant looks like a really solid place to work! The site is well done and it's technical! I think you landed at a great spot, granted that your team members are nice and helpful! I always think choosing a technical company is a far better choice for learning than a product company :)

I enjoy reading these posts, because I've worked with a decent amount of folks prepare for interviews whether new grad from a CS program, friends from a bootcamp, or even experienced engineer friends from top-10 schools. Everyone is taking it hard right now -- not the best of times to be in a hunt. It is absolutely rewarding once you land your first role and get your bearings.

I've seen people that have sent out over 2000 applications by automation and still don't have a job 1.5 years in - saw a post on LinkedIn. The r/cscareerquestions sub-Reddit also contains a lot of stories, too, but for every success story, there are hundreds (if not thousands) more that aren't successul. I also have relatives that have done the bootcamp thing and gave up, never finding a role and going back to their old gig :(

I, too, have been through such a journey quite a few times and each time is as lonely as the last. But once you have that first role with a year or two under your belt, things change -- people come knocking on your door. It doesn't make it any easier as the process can still be grueling, but less of the tossing applications into the abyss.

Stay curious and stay contributing, but definitely give yourself opportunity to explore things that interest you. Don't let that fire die, even if you're working with a fire hydrant :D

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Tori Crawford

David thank you so much for this well thought out comment. I think this adds so much to the discussion and I am so grateful for it.

I definitely feel as if I landed at an amazing company and I am so excited to see myself and the company grow over time.

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Ben Sinclair

That's really cool.

I remember periods in my life where I spend months (and more) searching and getting rejections or staring into that same void. It can be disheartening to the point where you stop looking or force yourself to make half-hearted efforts from time to time that you know will fail.

Well done for persevering and I hope the new role fits you well :)

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Tori Crawford

I also had moments of feeling like I was forcing myself to continue applying and interviewing even though the attempts were half-hearted. I think after awhile I realized that it was more beneficial for me to take breaks when I felt that way because it helped my morale boost back up. ❤️

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Nick Taylor

Congrats again Tori on your new role and thanks for sharing the whole process. 👏🔥

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Tori Crawford

Thanks, Nick! ♥️

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Abby Hanssen

Loved reading this. Thanks for sharing! As I am on the job hunt, it is uplifting to hear someone else's story and know that the feeling of sending my applications into the abyss is more common than I thought.

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Tori Crawford

Yes, that feeling of sending applications into the abyss is definitely a common feeling. Good luck with your search! Here's to hoping you find a role soon! 🤞

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telfer cronos

What a delightful story. You said it still gave you time to "build projects", so I am inspired to work on that. (Because of my age, I won't be sending an application for even one job over the next 444 days. But I would have time to work on a project).
Kind regards,
Richard Mullins

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Juneau Lim

Wow, such great news. That's amazing. I've heard that things are getting even hard due to the situation. You deserve it!
Congrats so much, and good luck with your new journey!
As well, thanks for sharing your stories on the way. Hope all the best.

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Booster

Well done! :)
Do you happen to have any idea about why it took you that long?
Actually I've heard that companies have been hiring Software Enginner a lot these past years (decades?).
I just graduated with a bechelor's degree in Computer Science and I'm looking for a job in Vancouver, BC. So, your story kind of worried me at first haha.

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Tori Crawford • Edited

I definitely don’t want this to be discouraging at all. I think the reason I wasn’t getting offers at first was due to a few different factors. I plan on writing a blog post about this but I’ll break it down for you quickly here.

  1. My mental health was not doing well. As much as I didn’t want my depression to bleed through during interviews, it did. I was not beaming confidence and that hurts my chances.
  2. I didn’t know computer science basics (data structures, time and space complexity, etc.) at first. As a computer science grad, you have this leg up on me already as I went the bootcamp route. 😊 I had to learn this all on my own after failing during interviews.
  3. I had no group project or open source experience at first either, which means no practical collaboration skills in tech.
  4. COVID-19

These 4 things I think were huge factors that led to me taking as long as I did to land a job. Over the 444 days, I worked my butt off to improve on these things and continuously improve myself. ❤️

When you get into your job search and start feeling frustrated, start asking yourself what you could be doing better and work on that. Strive to make yourself a better candidate and engineer. It’ll all be worth it no matter how long your job search journey lasts.

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Booster

Waw, you've come a long way!
Congratulations for your job offer and for getting over your depression! :)

Thank you for answering my question in such a detailed way, I'll read your blog post when it'll be released. :)

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Annie Liao

Hi Victoria! This is my second time reading your post. The first time was when you published it, I was only ~2 months into my "job search declaration" (yup, fellow Flatiron grad here). At the time I experienced #2~4 you mentioned above.

Now, having had over 25 first-round interviews in the past 5 months (14 second-rounds, 4 third-rounds, and 1 final round), I am adding #1 to my list.

I just wanted to say THANK YOU for sharing your journey. I have also been binge-reading your previous posts, which led to me joining the Hacktoberfest for the first time.

You were right. Each interview made me realize there are things I need to improve on, and even though I am hitting a new low mentally, it is OK if my journey takes longer than expected.

Really appreciate the encouragement and congrats on landing the job! ❤️

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Tori Crawford

Hi Annie! I am so happy that my blog posts have been relatable to you and that they've been able to help. ♥️ It's super exciting that you have jumped into Hacktoberfest for the first time! That is absolutely awesome and it is such a rewarding experience.

If you are ever in need of advice, please don't hesitate to reach out to me on here or over on Twitter. I'm happy to help out in any way I can.

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Aubalaca • Edited

I am very happy for you, honestly. I also had such period, let's call it a black line during your life when nothing goes well. I had a period when a had no idea what should i do next, i did not have a stable job, just kind of part time, just for assuring myself with food. That was terrible. Anytime i hear or i read about someone who has overpassed these periods and reached their goals, i feel very very happy for those people, so congratulations, you deserve it!! Durin my difficult period my cousin adviced me to pick 7 betting competition on pick7.bet/ in order to make some money. I was shocked that i actually won something, and it wasn't that hard. The guys are giving you a lot of opportunities to win. The money i won then, actually helped me to gain my motivation back.

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Michael Tharrington

Woot! Major congrats. 😀

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C. Pure

Thank you for this article and Congratulations on your new job as well!! 🤗✨

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Csokán Pál András

Wonderful. This is really helpful and very brave of you to go through all of it. Congratulations for your success.

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Rick Davies

Hey! Congrats, you deserve it

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Paul Caoile

Congratulations, Victoria! Great to read this good news as well as this great advice. Hats off to you.

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Ileriayo Adebiyi

Congratulations, Victoria!
Break a leg on your new role!

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Dana Ottaviani

Thank you for this post! ❤️

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Matt Curcio

Hi V,
Good on ya!
"In the short term progress disappoints but in the long run it surprises."
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