To me, the transition to ARM news made me move to PC/Linux as a whole. It’s more and more of a lock-in: first they took away Linux from me, now they’re taking away software? My production environment runs on amd64/Linux, there’s no way I’m doing development on a completely different architecture while being at mercy of software vendors to make their stuff work on ARM.
I think the transition to ARM is necessary at least for (non-gaming)laptops in the coming years. I don't know if there will be a huge transition in the PC world happening - probably not.
Since most CPUs are created for mobile use cases nowadays I think it does make sense to move to ARM since manufacturers will innovate more in the areas where they have the most consumers.
I'm in the same boat.
Still using my old macbook, but next laptop won't be from Apple.
It just seems like a terrible company to give my money to.
Linux look like the good guys.
I mean, yea it sounds like a sudden, unexpected dick move but you have to factor in that intel majorly disappointed Apple. I don't think they would've spent all this time and money to make an ARM chip if there was already something else available on the market. The thing is, Intel promised Apple (and the rest of the world) 10 nm by ~2015. However, intel endlessly delayed this 10 nm launch, so much so to the point where their next MacBook would eventually come in with AWFUL thermals and a thin design... a thin design wrapped around this 10 nm design that never actually came. A design that was promised to them by Intel. Next came Apple making a statement on Intel's binning quality, saying that it was "unusually bad". Obviously, Apple's trust in Intel was rapidly diminishing by then and I think by now, we all know what Apple started to scheme. Their own chip designs to stray away from Intel. This must've been well in the works before AMD came up with their OWN thing in 2019 which blew everyone and everything out of the water, but even then the M1 chip outperformed the AMD chips (upon release, at least, I can't speak for in-development phase) so I think Apple would've just liked to stick with their current plan instead of scrapping M1 altogether and moving to AMD, especially considering they have likely, by that point, invested a lot in software costs and logistical costs as well as they prepared to integrate M1 into their pipelines AND they had added performance on top of that. And to top it all off, it would integrate PERFECTLY with their ecosystem where you have iPad and iPhone apps that can run on your MacBook, knitting tighter an already tight-knit ecosystem. I don't think Apple would've been content investing this much into their said "ecosystem" had it not been for Intel essentially ruining everything and f***ing over Apple's 2017 MacBook.
To me, the transition to ARM news made me move to PC/Linux as a whole. It’s more and more of a lock-in: first they took away Linux from me, now they’re taking away software? My production environment runs on amd64/Linux, there’s no way I’m doing development on a completely different architecture while being at mercy of software vendors to make their stuff work on ARM.
I think the transition to ARM is necessary at least for (non-gaming)laptops in the coming years. I don't know if there will be a huge transition in the PC world happening - probably not.
Since most CPUs are created for mobile use cases nowadays I think it does make sense to move to ARM since manufacturers will innovate more in the areas where they have the most consumers.
Sounds quite logical, but in this case I’ll wait for the majority to transition first. :)
And yeah, that doesn’t counter the proprietary chips with closed specs Apple is obsessed with. :)
I'm in the same boat.
Still using my old macbook, but next laptop won't be from Apple.
It just seems like a terrible company to give my money to.
Linux look like the good guys.
I mean, yea it sounds like a sudden, unexpected dick move but you have to factor in that intel majorly disappointed Apple. I don't think they would've spent all this time and money to make an ARM chip if there was already something else available on the market. The thing is, Intel promised Apple (and the rest of the world) 10 nm by ~2015. However, intel endlessly delayed this 10 nm launch, so much so to the point where their next MacBook would eventually come in with AWFUL thermals and a thin design... a thin design wrapped around this 10 nm design that never actually came. A design that was promised to them by Intel. Next came Apple making a statement on Intel's binning quality, saying that it was "unusually bad". Obviously, Apple's trust in Intel was rapidly diminishing by then and I think by now, we all know what Apple started to scheme. Their own chip designs to stray away from Intel. This must've been well in the works before AMD came up with their OWN thing in 2019 which blew everyone and everything out of the water, but even then the M1 chip outperformed the AMD chips (upon release, at least, I can't speak for in-development phase) so I think Apple would've just liked to stick with their current plan instead of scrapping M1 altogether and moving to AMD, especially considering they have likely, by that point, invested a lot in software costs and logistical costs as well as they prepared to integrate M1 into their pipelines AND they had added performance on top of that. And to top it all off, it would integrate PERFECTLY with their ecosystem where you have iPad and iPhone apps that can run on your MacBook, knitting tighter an already tight-knit ecosystem. I don't think Apple would've been content investing this much into their said "ecosystem" had it not been for Intel essentially ruining everything and f***ing over Apple's 2017 MacBook.
That was an interesting read!
But my ethical concerns with Apple are mostly not about the M1 chip but other things like
Right, make your choices and don’t pay for what you don’t want! :)