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Discussion on: What are you glad you no longer use?

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Bret

Why the switch from JetBrains to VSC? And, Vue to Svelte?

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Artem

jetbrains is pricey

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Bret

So $24 a month, is pricey for a editor?

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Artem

Back in school I had a free student license, but after it expired the price was around $500-600 a year. It might be cheaper now.

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Jakub

You can use beta for free. Its called early access program (EAP) jetbrains.com/resources/eap/. I used that more then a year and never had any issue that would affect my productivity or experience.

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Bret

Ok, so is $25 a month good? Apparently it goes down the second month, or that might be if you pay by year all at once

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Artem

$25 a month is definitely a great deal for JetBrains product

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Joe Steinbring

It seems like every meet-up I've ever been to has involved the give away of a free JetBrains key. If you don't want to pay for a key, go visit almost any meet-up group out there. ;)

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Artem

Haha good to know! Will do.

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Bret

What’s a meet-up?

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Adam Crockett

A meet-up is a place where other programmers go to hang out, pretend to talk to each other for a bit and then just do thier own work for a while before showing what they have done. It's basically an introvert party. This is all down to personal experience, your experience may differ.

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Bret

ok, where can you find events for one?

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Adam Crockett

meetup.com

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Joe Steinbring

There is typically a focus for the individual meet-up group (JavaScript, C#, Vue.js, AWS, etc). They usually meet once per month in a company's (that financially sponsors the group) presentation space. There is usually free food and drinks (including beer if that is how the sponsor rolls). Each month's meetup starts with a presentation on a topic (something like "What's new in Vue 3") and then there is social time afterwards so that you can chat with like-minded folks.

It's called what it is because most of these groups organize on meetup.com and I have never seen there be a cost to attend one but they usually have a jar out for donations (meetup.com charges a lot for a host account).

Example: meetup.com/Angular-Boston/events/2...

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Đĵ ΝιΓΞΗΛψΚ

vscode: better look & feel (personal preference i guess), feels lighter, one text editor to rule them all.

svelte: better/simpler developer experience, no virtual dom, easier state management, smaller bundle size. snappier user experience.

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Bret

I’m getting into Data Science, I just found out about creating “tasks” in VSC and It’s helped allot. I’m liking JetBrains because, it seems lighter than VSC, I wish it had some more add ons . I’ve been using React over Vue but Vue seemed simpler but more “sugar” of their own syntax. Will you try Vue3 at some point?

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Đĵ ΝιΓΞΗΛψΚ

i see no reason to go back to vue or even try vue3. unless vue4 becomes a compiler like svelte. not having a virtual dom is a huge bonus from what i've seen. also svelte stores with auto subscription is just too easy compared to working with vuex imho.

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Adam Crockett

I'm now interested. Vue has been getting on my nerves lately. There is so much boilerplate! I guess Vue 3 may be better but I fear that I will still get stuck and have little help in terms of errors. I'm looking at you Vue reactivity model, why you no react?

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Bret

I hate the constant errors, you type one “.” Period, and it’s error error error error ...

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Adam Crockett

20 errors from Vue.esm telling me that everything broke. I totally understand, get out of the way Vue!

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AGiesey

I haven't used JetBrains in a long time, but I loved it. I started using VS Code about 2 years ago and I think it's amazing. I can't compare JetBrains and VS Code but I can tell you I was an immediate beliver. Oh, and I hate Visual Studio.