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I think it is a great feature and I have a suggestion to improve it. While I agree that giving the author power over their post is good, it can also lead to unwarranted censorship which can leave the readers and commenters feeling slighted. Because of that, I would suggest hidden comments are less discoverable, but can be expanded to view the content. That would allow the author to have control while also allowing the reader to determine for themselves if the comment was constructive.
I think it could be combined with comments marked as low quality/non-constructive by the community. Those could also be hidden but expandable. These could also be restricted from further replies to them.
We're taking this all into account about next steps. Definitely worth making more clear that mods/admins cannot use this feature on posts. Only the author can take the hide comment action.
And we don't want to imply that the comment has been hidden because of code of conduct issues or because the comment is bad per se. The author may want to hide it for any reasons, perhaps just because it's confusing or the question's been answered elsewhere, etc.
I want to use communication software in which all messages are equal.
Example: I'd reply later to your message, but you haven't created the command to bookmark it. We could actually design command series that are even more helpful.
You have included the command to upload images.
Who wants to discuss principles of data management, so that we decide on what we want from software that we need often and see how little "developers" have given us?
I haven't forgotten your words, but I can't be expected to use this program after complaining about it.
What is your name? Where can I see it in a social profile? Your GitHub profile includes no name.
One of the most salient features of our Tech Hiring culture is that there is so much bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted.
this could be useful for non offensive things as well.
I have proposed to have a group like dev.to/conect/proof-read-me
where people could ask for a human to proof-read their basic mistakes before they hit "Publish".
it would be especially useful for non native English speakers
where this nicely fits in is that once feedback has been provided in a comment and taken into account, that discussion could be hidden and replaced by a big thank you to the reviewer
I actually think this is a bad idea. Say someone wrote an article about a piece of software they made, and someone makes a comment about a critical flaw it has. Because this will likely reduce the amount of people who are going to use it, the author simply decides to hide the comment.
Now I understand that this will not always happen, so I’m proposing that users need to earn permission to use the feature, perhaps by having to reach a certain amount of comments and hearts. And even then, they shouldn’t be completely hidden. Maybe something like what Ryan suggested.
It is a bad idea indeed. There was a post I read this morning, that had comments on it that was on-topic, refuting most of the post.
Author even replied that there is a lot of good points, but later that day comments are hidden, and as far as I can tell, the author have not updated post to reflect any of the points in the comments. So feel like it's just burying information for self serving reasons.
It has happened to me many times, most recently right now. I guess DEV is starting to value political correctness more than other types of correctness. Of course they aren't the only one, in fact it's a wonder they endured for this long. Well, it was nice while it lasted. Time to find a new community.
(Yes, I know this comment is probably going to be hidden. I'm writing it mostly for the person who is going to hide it.:)
This feature is total bullshit. Say I am an author, I write some marketing crap or total nonsense. Commenters are on-topic and refute most of my crap and non-sense. But I can choose to leave only favourable comments, and hide negative ones? How is that good for credibility (of dev.to) ?
Grumpy old fart that throws up a little every time he sees someone being passionate about some javascript lib. Tech agnostic. If it bleeds, I can kill -9 it.
This has already happened several times, one example being mentioned further up. And DEV.to does not have much credibility in itself; there's not enough curation and no editorial process to keep a consistent quality for that to happen. Chrome's article suggestions have had me end up at hastily thrown together articles way too many times, and since calling out low quality language is a violation of the Code of Conduct it will likely not change. Go team.
I think it is a great feature and I have a suggestion to improve it. While I agree that giving the author power over their post is good, it can also lead to unwarranted censorship which can leave the readers and commenters feeling slighted. Because of that, I would suggest hidden comments are less discoverable, but can be expanded to view the content. That would allow the author to have control while also allowing the reader to determine for themselves if the comment was constructive.
I think it could be combined with comments marked as low quality/non-constructive by the community. Those could also be hidden but expandable. These could also be restricted from further replies to them.
This 'feature' would just lead to more curation by authors and dev.to staff on top of already heavy moderation by the dev.to staff per my expi.
It really depends on what you are trying to achieve with dev.to.
Is it a blogging site for devs, or curated content by dev.to staff?
tbh, I find it more of the latter after taking it for a spin last month.
Also, consider this: github repos let devs to comment without getting into NLP logistics of what's in comments.
Perhaps better upvote/downvote UX for comments would be a much better approach to keep it more liberal ...
That includes adding more than just tag, heart & unicorn to blog posts.
I've seen a few I'd mark with 👎 without resorting to any constructive feedback comments some might find offensive.
We're taking this all into account about next steps. Definitely worth making more clear that mods/admins cannot use this feature on posts. Only the author can take the hide comment action.
And we don't want to imply that the comment has been hidden because of code of conduct issues or because the comment is bad per se. The author may want to hide it for any reasons, perhaps just because it's confusing or the question's been answered elsewhere, etc.
Hello.
I am very interested in your question.
I haven't forgotten your words, but I can't be expected to use this program after complaining about it.
What is your name? Where can I see it in a social profile? Your GitHub profile includes no name.
this could be useful for non offensive things as well.
I have proposed to have a group like dev.to/conect/proof-read-me
where people could ask for a human to proof-read their basic mistakes before they hit "Publish".
it would be especially useful for non native English speakers
where this nicely fits in is that once feedback has been provided in a comment and taken into account, that discussion could be hidden and replaced by a big thank you to the reviewer
I agree 100% with this. Really well-articulated point of view.
+1
I actually think this is a bad idea. Say someone wrote an article about a piece of software they made, and someone makes a comment about a critical flaw it has. Because this will likely reduce the amount of people who are going to use it, the author simply decides to hide the comment.
Now I understand that this will not always happen, so I’m proposing that users need to earn permission to use the feature, perhaps by having to reach a certain amount of comments and hearts. And even then, they shouldn’t be completely hidden. Maybe something like what Ryan suggested.
It is a bad idea indeed. There was a post I read this morning, that had comments on it that was on-topic, refuting most of the post.
Author even replied that there is a lot of good points, but later that day comments are hidden, and as far as I can tell, the author have not updated post to reflect any of the points in the comments. So feel like it's just burying information for self serving reasons.
It has happened to me many times, most recently right now. I guess DEV is starting to value political correctness more than other types of correctness. Of course they aren't the only one, in fact it's a wonder they endured for this long. Well, it was nice while it lasted. Time to find a new community.
(Yes, I know this comment is probably going to be hidden. I'm writing it mostly for the person who is going to hide it.:)
This feature is total bullshit. Say I am an author, I write some marketing crap or total nonsense. Commenters are on-topic and refute most of my crap and non-sense. But I can choose to leave only favourable comments, and hide negative ones? How is that good for credibility (of dev.to) ?
This has already happened several times, one example being mentioned further up. And DEV.to does not have much credibility in itself; there's not enough curation and no editorial process to keep a consistent quality for that to happen. Chrome's article suggestions have had me end up at hastily thrown together articles way too many times, and since calling out low quality language is a violation of the Code of Conduct it will likely not change. Go team.
Let me see hidden comments then. This feature feels like censorship with extra steps.
Here's an example top level comment :)
Link to hidden comment: dev.to/andy/comment/imkf
And a hidden reply with one child
I am a child that is not hidden itself, but hidden from the main thread.
I am like 100% certain that readers should be able to view the hidden comments if they so wish.
One thing of note.... Due to caching, this will get rolled out unevenly in places. If you check now you may not see the functionality available.
And how do I un hide them?
You can click the dropdown again and click "unhide". Note that you'll need the comment's permalink to do so.
This would also be useful for hiding comments marked as low quality/non-constructive.