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Discussion on: What Makes an Environment Inclusive?

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W. Brian Gourlie

But I didn't frame the problem in terms of stats like the SO survey or anything.

These are the kinds of statistics typically used to make the case that the industry is not being inclusive enough, as was the case with stackoverflow. I apologize if this was reaching.

What I'm describing is an actual addressable problem: The tendency to implement a generic solution, fail (or succeed, even) and move on.

How do we implement a non-generic solution to a very generic problem? How do we make sure that people from all around the world, of various cultures, ethnicity, identity, ideology, and experiences all feel included? Challenging the premise here: Is universal inclusion feasible? Or should we focus more on making sure that nobody is excluded, while offering a hand to disadvantaged people to give them the opportunities that they may otherwise not have?

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Ben Halpern

Is universal inclusion feasible? Or should we focus more on making sure that nobody is excluded

If there is any distinction here, I'm not sure how important it is.

But either way, what I mean is that inclusiveness is a messy problem. It's often addressed with platitudes rather than strategy. What's the strategy? That's really on the org, just like the rest of their work. Smart people figure out solutions to problems that actually fall within the core directives.

Who gets priority between the employee who needs service animal and the employee who is very allergic to dogs? It's probably not a solution that needs to be architected well in advance of the issue coming up. Other potential problems are much more straightforward, but from what I've seen the difference is how bought in the team is to treating inclusiveness like a core issue.

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W. Brian Gourlie • Edited

If there is any distinction here, I'm not sure how important it is.

I think there's a huge distinction, especially given how many inclusion efforts in the tech industry have been carried out. In fact, I've published an article on this very site highlighting this!

We've come to a point where terms like "inclusion" and "code-of-conduct" have been tainted in such a way that they are essentially self-defeating. I've seen many instances where people claim to feel excluded if people whom they disagree with are included.

EDIT

A perfect illustration of what "inclusivity" has come to represent, tweeted 4 hours ago:

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Kyle Pollich

Re: Your edit. That tweet is from May of 2018, not from 4 hours ago.

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W. Brian Gourlie

It was from from 4 hours ago in May of 2018, when I made the edit.

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Kyle Pollich

Ah my mistake - something's funky with my dev.to feed.

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