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Discussion on: Moving to Split Keyboard AND new layout!

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Michel Renaud

Interesting. Never heard of Colemak before. I don't know if I have that courage. I'm not sure if the layout would work well with my Kinesis Freestyle keyboard.

That Lily58 keyboard sure looks a little strange. No key markings on your model?

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Daniel Mayovsky Author

I honestly get surprised when people mention that my keycaps are blank. I have this, probably unhealthy, assumption that most people that are involved with anything keyboards, are already touch typing, so they are not looking at their keyboard to see the legends.

I assembled the Lily58 myself. The actual kit only comes with a PCB and a case. Everything is soldered together by hand, which is why its significantly cheaper than the Ergodox keyboard.

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Michel Renaud

I was wondering because on their web site I only saw ones with markings. I don't look much at my keyboard myself - only when creating a new password, just to be on the safe side (that's when I don't just use a generated password).

A few years ago my coworker had one of those original Das Keyboard with blank keys at work. One morning I heard cursing and then saw a tech support guy walk by. A few minutes later he walked back with a regular keyboard. I walked by my coworkers office later and the support guy was at his computer with the regular keyboard on his lap, looking at it and then slowly typing on the Das Keyboard. I still get a chuckle when I think about that day.

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Daniel Mayovsky Author

That's worth a chuckle for sure. And what's even funnier is that he didn't connect his keyboard. He'd just look on his regular keyboard and type on the Das :)

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Michel Renaud

hahaha Yes. I didn’t ask. I figured he probably didn’t have much he needed to type and it wasn’t worth going under the desk and everything. I’m often surprised to see people who have been using keyboards for many years and still need to look at the keyboard and type with only two fingers. Oh well, they’re probably very good at something I suck at, soooooo..... :)

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joshinat0r

It's a custom build keyboard (some shops will sell build ones), so you buy a Case, PCB & MCU and solder some switches onto it and slap you own keycaps on.

Legends on split boards are somewhat pointless, just because the layout is vastly different for each person because of QMK (you can flash custom layouts onto the keyboard).
Those are cherry caps, meaning every row has a different height. Most sets that could cover ortholinear (meaning only 1u keys) are QWERTY anyways (Colemak/Workman/Dvorak support are rare). OP would need to get an unsculpted profile (like DSA) to get proper legends.
It's not like you look much at the keyboard when touchtyping, at least when you're typing on a layout that you're familiar with.

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Daniel Mayovsky Author

Those are OEM keycaps, so they are a little taller than Cherry. Reverse R1 for thumb keys is really comfy :) Although I will probably get a custom wrist rest for this anyways, because reaching numbers on this thing is surprisingly farther than you'd anticipate.

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joshinat0r

Never really liked wrist rest for split boards, always felt like I had to adjust them every time I reach for the mouse.

Ended up with low profile on my Lilys (Chocs & no case & rubber feets underneath the PCB) instead and find it much more comfortable because the hand ist resting on the table without having to bend my wrists too much.
But its a dangerous rabbit hole, starts with one basic split keyboard and ends with intricate keymaps and a drawer full of builds because you had to try another keyboard with slightly more staggered pinkies.

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Daniel Mayovsky Author

Yeah I've seen quite a few members on Discord that have like 15 split keyboards :)
I'm thinking of my next build to be Chocs with a tiny acrylic case at most, and MBK keycaps. But that's somewhere in the future. I have to get used to this keyboard first, before I decide whether I want another split :)