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YAMADA Nobuko
YAMADA Nobuko

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Programmer must code every day. Even in holiday seasons?

It doesn't matter if you've been to programming school or not, if you haven't written any code at all during this holiday season, you're probably not cut out to be an engineer.

It is now trend discussion topic in Twitter (of Japan).
Original tweet is:
https://twitter.com/kyuns/status/1345684921768022016?s=19

He is CTO of Zozo. https://zozo.jp/

Discussing point is "Even in holiday seasons?".
"We must enjoy holidays with families.", "Must enjoy our hobby.", "Is it professionalism?" etc.

There is some summary.
https://togetter.com/li/1647315

And it became a big discussion. This is another opinion.
https://blog.hirokiky.org/entry/2021/01/04/124400

Any opinions?

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Scott Yeatts • Edited on

I've been writing code for around 30 years.

I code in my free time if something interesting calls for me to code.

I did this before I was getting paid to do it. I do this now.

The same way someone interested in cars changes parts when they need to be changed, and every once in a while might break down an engine.

I do NOT write code everyday (outside of work), ESPECIALLY not when I'm on holiday from the job where I expect I will use most of my creativity and skill. That holiday will make me a better coder when I return.

If I happen to get interested in a coding problem and I decide to write some code for fun? It's fun, so I do it.

I do NOT encourage anyone to write code just to code when they should be resting or spending time with their families.

I had my first "just for fun" side-project (at least from since I started getting paid to write code) in 2020. The very first one. And I sunk maybe five days of the year into it, as a favor for a buddy.

If you need to practice for school or to improve your performance/understanding, I get it.

But if you know how to code already and aren't struggling, there's no reason you should be expected to code just to say "I wrote some code". Anyone telling you otherwise is trying to cultivate employees that will work extra hours without pay and wants to exploit the "passion" coders have for their jobs. Don't fall for that trick, and don't work for that company!

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Ryan Latta

This opinion pops up in a lot of forms, and always focus on the idea that if you aren't always coding that you aren't good enough.

This is dangerously wrong.

At the end of the day, it's a job. You go to work, do great things, make good money, but treat it like a job. The idea that you can't be good at it unless you are always doing it is silly.

I've met plenty of developers who believe things like this CTO and burn out from feeling like they'll never be good enough when they already are.

Everyone needs to take care of themselves. If that means turning off a computer and gardening then that is exactly the right thing to do. It doesn't make you less of a developer or engineer, it makes you a human.

For reference: I've led lots of technical teams and programs, and set strategies and been the CTO of a startup. I consider it paramount in my job when I'm in a leadership position to take care of my people, not brainwash them into thinking they'll never be good enough.

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John Dears • Edited on

Is this not in English?

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YAMADA Nobuko Author

Only Japanese. But I felt this is really interesting discussion. So I wanted to share with English speaking community.

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Hamza Anis

Tweet is not available.

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YAMADA Nobuko Author

Oh.. Seems it is already unavailable.
The original tweet is quoted at the blog below.
blog.hirokiky.org/entry/2021/01/04...

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Dillon Headley

That's an interesting opinion...

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