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I love it; we can focus on high-quality articles instead of listicles.
One thing that is not being solved yet is nonrelevant articles that are being posted by bots (non-dev related)
There's a bunch of it on the latest feed, and that massive amount of spam causes good articles not to get visibility.
Maybe some kind of tech_score can be assigned, saying how technical the post is.
Of course, it's completely legitimate and desirable to have non-tech posts here, often under #watercooler or similar tags, but it might be some indication.
I'm happy that the DEV team is addressing clickbait posts, but I would like it even better if you considered another metric as well. The number of engagements that a post gets in a short amount of time should be considered I think. At the very least to flag a post for further review. Trigger happy trolls often create posts that they know are very controversial and thus produce a large amount of response in a short time. Currently such posts can reside in the top 1 on DEV posts for weeks before getting removed due to significant negativity in the commentary all the while moderators get flooded with reports from people who want to misuse moderation to silence the other side of the argument. Instead of muting/banning the people, consider removing posts that trigger such commentary from the listings early, by checking for number of interactions in a 2 hour period for example.
I would make sure to watch out that you don't change the platform too much for the sake of a small but loud minority position.
It's easy to hate on listicles, but they are by no means low-effort content and they provide value to a lot of users - hence why they get engagement and dominate top feeds.
Click-ability is also a natural push in any content feed. You can spend weeks working on high quality content, but if you don't optimize its click ability - no one will see it or know about it. This is by no means unique to dev.to, it's a feature of every content ecosystem.
Greater user customization and more sophisticated filtering could be great, just don't be overly reactive to users who may not represent the best interests of the platform.
Yup, that is definitely the ethos we're trying to follow here. Our implementation is not an all-or-nothing adjustment — just a cue in an increasingly intelligent algorithm. As much as we respect the filter extension, it is definitely not the direction we'd have gone. I think we are hitting the right tone here and a/b testing everything.
But thank you for the feedback, it is definitely valuable to hear this, definitely agree.
What I've noticed for quite some time now is the huge amount of spam accounts, which are completely unrelated to web/software dev - so I was wondering if you have a strategy in place to combat that (but, from what I can see it seems that such accounts are being actively removed, so that's a good thing).
This is a really cool initiative. I think this will make the feed much healthier and we will have higher quality content on the platform. 💪
There is limited visibility, though, on how things are being filtered without having to dive into the algo, IMO. I have recently posted a post with a non-trivial amount of work (dev.to/quine/5-open-source-tools-f...), and I believe I have been penalised by the algo (around 5% of the impressions I normally get after 24 hours). I am not sure why, and I'm a bit bummed about this. 🙃
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Oh thank god. I rarely come on here anymore because there's a mountain of garbage clickbait to shovel before finding anything interesting. It didn't used to be like this.
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Thank you!
But with this in mind, I'd love for us to expose some native functionality people could plug in to to refine their feed.
Will get back to you.
Great work DEV team! This will help make the community better.
I totally agree with your comment @uliyahoo!
great work..
Amazing work!
I love it; we can focus on high-quality articles instead of listicles.
One thing that is not being solved yet is nonrelevant articles that are being posted by bots (non-dev related)
There's a bunch of it on the latest feed, and that massive amount of spam causes good articles not to get visibility.
Maybe some kind of
tech_scorecan be assigned, saying how technical the post is.Of course, it's completely legitimate and desirable to have non-tech posts here, often under #watercooler or similar tags, but it might be some indication.
I'm happy that the DEV team is addressing clickbait posts, but I would like it even better if you considered another metric as well. The number of engagements that a post gets in a short amount of time should be considered I think. At the very least to flag a post for further review. Trigger happy trolls often create posts that they know are very controversial and thus produce a large amount of response in a short time. Currently such posts can reside in the top 1 on DEV posts for weeks before getting removed due to significant negativity in the commentary all the while moderators get flooded with reports from people who want to misuse moderation to silence the other side of the argument. Instead of muting/banning the people, consider removing posts that trigger such commentary from the listings early, by checking for number of interactions in a 2 hour period for example.
I thank you. My blood pressure thanks you.
I would make sure to watch out that you don't change the platform too much for the sake of a small but loud minority position.
It's easy to hate on listicles, but they are by no means low-effort content and they provide value to a lot of users - hence why they get engagement and dominate top feeds.
Click-ability is also a natural push in any content feed. You can spend weeks working on high quality content, but if you don't optimize its click ability - no one will see it or know about it. This is by no means unique to dev.to, it's a feature of every content ecosystem.
Greater user customization and more sophisticated filtering could be great, just don't be overly reactive to users who may not represent the best interests of the platform.
Yup, that is definitely the ethos we're trying to follow here. Our implementation is not an all-or-nothing adjustment — just a cue in an increasingly intelligent algorithm. As much as we respect the filter extension, it is definitely not the direction we'd have gone. I think we are hitting the right tone here and a/b testing everything.
But thank you for the feedback, it is definitely valuable to hear this, definitely agree.
Good job, keep up the good work making this platform more welcoming and with high-quality content.
Ben, what is your definition of "clickbait'?
What I've noticed for quite some time now is the huge amount of spam accounts, which are completely unrelated to web/software dev - so I was wondering if you have a strategy in place to combat that (but, from what I can see it seems that such accounts are being actively removed, so that's a good thing).
Keep up the good work!
This is a really cool initiative. I think this will make the feed much healthier and we will have higher quality content on the platform. 💪
There is limited visibility, though, on how things are being filtered without having to dive into the algo, IMO. I have recently posted a post with a non-trivial amount of work (dev.to/quine/5-open-source-tools-f...), and I believe I have been penalised by the algo (around 5% of the impressions I normally get after 24 hours). I am not sure why, and I'm a bit bummed about this. 🙃
I really appreciate the way you face such problems.
Hope for the best.
Great post. Strategy 2 really shocked me!
Just kidding. Please don't ban me :D
Nice work team!
THANKS
Oh thank god. I rarely come on here anymore because there's a mountain of garbage clickbait to shovel before finding anything interesting. It didn't used to be like this.
I love this! Thanks for doing it, and thanks for maintaining transparency!
But woe to you, O dev.to content creator, for the AI censor has come down to you in great wrath 🫣😂
I'll note that this has no way to remove anything from the feed, it just limits how likely it is to be the top post if it's egregious.
Just a note on the term "censor" — it will have an impact but be relatively minimal.
Great job DEV team! Good to see that you are continuously working on improving DEV community, thank you!
Great @ben and DEV team, this is a nice improvement!👀