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OpenAI can't rule out that it stole its most recent breakthrough

A mathematician spent a year on one of the hardest open problems in math. He asked OpenAI a simple question. Did you train on my sessions? Today they answered. Sort of.

Here is what happened.

The setup

Tristan Buckmaster is a math professor at NYU. He and Levent Alpöge spent most of the past year attacking finite-time blowup for fluid equations, the family of problems that includes the Navier-Stokes Millennium Prize. They worked with LLMs the whole way. Claude, Codex, GPT-5.6 Sol, Astra. By August 15 they had blowup results for Boussinesq and 3D Euler. By August 22 they had a proof verified in Lean.

Every draft of the project went through Codex. His words, from his statement: "our sessions in Codex, into which we had been putting all our drafts for the whole of this project."

The call

September 3. Rumors start moving. Buckmaster emails his contact at OpenAI to ask what's going on. Within days he's on a call with Sébastien Bubeck. He's told an internal OpenAI model has produced a proof of finite-time blowup for forced Navier-Stokes. About 100 pages. Same smooth-forcing setup he and Alpöge had quietly chosen.

He asks when the first prompt was sent. It takes a while to get an answer. Eventually it's agreed: in the past few days, after information about their work had reached OpenAI.

Then he asks the real question. Was the model trained on, or did it have access to, their Codex sessions?

He's told the model did not look up user data.

He asks again. About training specifically.

No answer.

That was the state of things when he went public last night. Alongside it: two proposals to coordinate release, a request to drop Alpöge from authorship because Alpöge works at Anthropic, and a line he quotes directly: "If you don't want me to be nice, then I don't have to be nice." OpenAI's first response called the allegations "false and inflammatory." Bubeck has since called the career remark "ill-chosen" and retracted it.

The answer

Today OpenAI posted a statement. Read this part slowly.

"While unlikely, we cannot rule out that de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models."

That is the training question. Answered.

Not "we did not train on it." Not "their sessions were excluded." They cannot rule it out. A year of unpublished work on a Millennium Prize problem, and the company whose model produced the result cannot rule out that the work was in the training set.

Notice how carefully the statement is built. It says no specific user data was "accessed." That's a retrieval claim. It says the researchers and agents did not "see" the work. That's a visibility claim. Training is a third thing, and on training the answer is a shrug.

They also say the proofs differ significantly and the Euler results are different, forced versus unforced. Maybe so. Nobody outside OpenAI has seen their proof yet, including Buckmaster. That part will get sorted out by mathematicians.

Why this matters to you

You don't have a Millennium Prize problem in your Codex history. You have your codebase. Your architecture decisions. The thing you've been building for eight months that isn't public yet.

Consumer Codex sessions are training data by default. That is not a leak. That is the product. Buckmaster's drafts were "de-identified data derived from usage." So are yours.

The lesson isn't that OpenAI did something exotic here. It's that the default did exactly what the default does, and for once it happened to someone whose work was important enough that the question got asked out loud, and answered in writing.

"We cannot rule it out" is the honest answer. It's also the only answer they can give. Think about what that means for everything you've ever pasted in.


Sources: Buckmaster's statement, the OpenAI statement, TechCrunch, Fortune, The Decoder, OpenAI data policy.

Top comments (2)

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Jane Jones

This is a fascinating case because it raises a question that goes far beyond whether one particular breakthrough was independently reproduced: what does “independent” mean when researchers and AI labs are operating inside the same information ecosystem?

The phrase “we cannot rule out” is especially consequential. It may be an honest statement about the limits of data provenance rather than proof that anyone deliberately used the researchers’ work. But that distinction doesn't make the underlying problem less important. If a system cannot reliably determine whether unpublished research entered the training pipeline, then researchers have to think differently about what they are willing to place into that system.

A few points really stood out to me:

  • “The person whose work was important enough that the question got asked out loud” captures the uncomfortable asymmetry here. Most users will never have the resources or visibility to investigate whether their unpublished work influenced a later model.
  • The distinction between access, retrieval, and training is crucial. Not having directly accessed a user's session does not necessarily answer whether information derived from that session could have influenced a future model.
  • The issue of independent verification is even more interesting. If a model may have encountered the original work, then a subsequent result from the same model family becomes difficult to characterize as truly independent confirmation.
  • The Lean-verified proof may ultimately be the most constructive part of the story. Formal verification doesn't solve questions of intellectual provenance, but it can establish whether a mathematical argument actually works independently of who generated it.
  • And the broader lesson for developers and researchers is uncomfortable: unpublished work entered into an AI system may not remain as cleanly separated from future model development as people intuitively assume.

I also think the “information barrier” analogy in the top comment is worth taking seriously. Academia has established norms around unpublished manuscripts, embargoes, priority, and conflicts of interest, but generative AI introduces a new kind of information-flow problem that those norms weren't designed for.

The most important question may therefore not be “Did OpenAI steal this proof?” We may not have enough evidence to answer that yet.

A more fundamental question is: “What safeguards should exist so that researchers can confidently use AI tools on unpublished work without creating ambiguity about future independence and intellectual priority?”

That feels like the real issue this episode has exposed. The technology may be advancing faster than the norms needed to use it responsibly.

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Baptiste Le Bouquin

What sticks with me here isn't the whodunit — it's that "we cannot rule out" is the only answer any lab can structurally give at this point. Once usage data flows into de-identified training pipelines at scale, auditing the provenance of one researcher's sessions is probably beyond what even the vendor can actually perform. That's a different problem from lying: it's a system where a truthful "we don't know" is indistinguishable from a stalling "we won't say".

The practical takeaway for anyone doing serious work through these tools is uncomfortable: your working sessions are potentially contaminating your own future results. If Buckmaster's drafts end up influencing a later model, any "independent confirmation" of the blowup result coming from that same vendor is worthless as verification. It's the wall-crossing problem finance solved with information barriers, and research hasn't built an equivalent norm — embargo your sessions the way you'd embargo a preprint, maybe.

The one clean defense in the whole story is the Lean-verified proof. Trust-dependent claims stay stuck in he-said-she-said; machine-checked artifacts don't care who saw what. If anything good comes out of this, it might be that formal verification stops being an academic curiosity and becomes the default way to keep priority claims out of dispute.