Ben Halpern

Posted on May 15, 2022

Pitch me on Ruby

#discuss #ruby #pitchme

Part of a new series! Feel welcome to dip in and weigh in on a past question.

Let's say I've never used Ruby before. Can anyone give the run down of what the language does and why you prefer it? Feel free to touch on drawbacks as well.

Top comments (16)

Jeremy Friesen • May 15 '22 • Edited

Ruby has an elegant syntax and allows for very expressive DSLs. Look to various languages that have cribbed RSpec syntax, even those fail to match the expressive DSL. All of which is to say there's something envious about Ruby

Further, Ruby on Rails is an amazing tool for moving from prototype to product.

It's also a language that trusts the programmer (which is a blessing and a curse). You can go so far as to re-open a class to adjust implementation details. (Very similar to advising functions in emacs lisp and I believe other lisps). You could go so far as to store Ruby class defs (or modules) in a database and mix those into your running application. (Is that a good plan? Probably want to not give just anyone that power.

I see Ruby as the child of Lisp and Smalltalk with an upbringing by Perl. Lisp and Smalltalk come from a theoretical era, when computational power was expensive. They are both thought exercises in what could be. And Ruby benefits from their endeavors and presents itself in the vein of a C-based language, meaning it uses the same-ish declaration syntax as many languages (Python, JavaScript, etc).

Lorraine Lee • May 15 '22

Ruby is my comfort language. That may say more about me than about Ruby. For whatever reason, if I have a need to compute something algorithmically, and it's something reasonably simple, Ruby is what I reach for, mainly because in Ruby I'm less likely to hit the speed bump called "reading the manual." But that's because I've memorized a larger chunk of the Ruby manual than (say) the Python manual (I'm a student of mathematics so in theory I should be more in the Python orbit). So very likely it being my comfort language is not something about Ruby per se. As I said in my "Python pitch" in your series, I edit Python faster than I edit Ruby, but I think so much faster in Ruby that Ruby is still my comfort language. Doing every single Ruby exercise on Exercism is probably what addicted me to Ruby.

aclarembeau • May 15 '22

I've been using ruby quite extensively over the past 3 years, and I would describe it as the following:

Ruby is a modern programming language with a clean syntax.

Nothing more, nothing less. It's quite similar as Python, but with a few more syntaxic sugar (it allows you to write your code in many alternative ways, that I often find very pleasant to read, compared to other languages, which are generally more "rigid").

The places where it shines is when you has to write web applications, thanks to the beautiful Ruby on Rails framework, that allows, thanks to a well defined architecture, and good balance between presets and flexibility to quickly build new applications (and it comes with a very good ecosystem of libraries, called "gems")

So, to summarize:

It's pretty neat to read
It is really good to quickly build application with the Rails framework

Of course, it has drawbacks too, like:

Not so good support for concurrency (afaik, it doesn't have light threads with promise await like in Javascript for instance)
Relatively recent support for types (in case you need typing, Ruby is not always the right choice)

Riccardo Bernardini • May 17 '22

Minimal surprise and a very consistent structure.
It has a flexible syntax that allows you to use the best solution depending on the context, for example,

a.each {|x| puts(x)}

vs.

a.each do |x|
   puts(x)
end

if foo 
   return
end

vs.

return if foo

Moderately strongly typed; not as much as Ada, but at least it does not try to be "smart" converting everything to everything else (yes, JS and PHP, I am looking at you...)
Duck typing is maybe the best middle ground for a language like Ruby: it offers you some protection, while allowing some flexibility
Strong reflection features. Although I wouldn't use them for critical code, they are too fun to use 😄
yield allows for some nice construct like the File.open do ...
It does not make spaces significant... well, almost. If you put some space between a procedure name and the parenthesis, you could have some trouble; but at least it is not like in Python or Occam where white space plays a critical role
Really nice for programs that are too complex for a shell script, but that would be an overkill to write them in something more structured (e.g., Ada, C, C++)
Regexp make really easy to process text files. For a small script to extract data from a text file, Ruby is my first choice

On the cons side, I would not suggest it for medium complexity code and/or code with a "long life" that will require maintenance in the future. Duck and dynamic typing is nice for its flexibility, but when the code is too complex it gets difficult to keep track of the type of the different variables and this makes maintenance more difficult (at least, according to my experience)

Sylwia Vargas • May 16 '22 • Edited

I'll just leave my love letter to Ruby here 💕

Why do you love Ruby, actually? An ode.

Sylwia Vargas ・ Feb 21 '21 ・ 8 min read

#ruby #discuss #rails #codenewbie

K-Sato • May 16 '22 • Edited

Active Record(IMO still one of the best ORMs)

𒎏Wii 🏳️‍⚧️ • May 16 '22 • Edited

$ ruby -e 'puts "".methods.count'
183

Whether this is a good or a bad thing depends entirely on what you need the language for 😉

Mahmoud Harmouch • May 15 '22

Being the co-founder of Forem, which technically implies that you are omniscient about the language, i think this is the best occasion to pitch us on ruby.