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Paweł Ludwiczak for The DEV Team

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Hello again. It's time to do some work!

tl;dr

DEV is redesigning the home page. But we need your help and feedback. Also, hi!

Hello, again.

This is Paweł, I'm a part of the Product Design team, here at DEV. Lisa and I joined DEV recently.

So, what does the Design team at DEV actually do? Great question! To keep it short: we're trying to make DEV more usable, better-looking, and welcoming. We're also going to work on our design system — a bunch of tools and guidelines to make designing and building features much easier; it should also help us make things more consistent because… well:

Buttons

The Home Page

One of our very first projects will be improving DEV's home page. There are several things we'd love to do here — some of them will be subtle changes and others more drastic and groundbreaking (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit).

Goals

We have one main problem to solve with the home page makeover: people struggle to find relevant content. They don't know where to look because the current home page is a bit overwhelming.

We need you!

WE NEED YOU

Now, the most important part.

We don't want to sit in a closed room, moving pixels around and suddenly deploy changes that you may totally hate. We want to stay in touch with you through the entire process. We want to inform you of our ideas and progress. But most importantly, we want you, the DEV Community, to help us by providing feedback, words of wisdom, opinions, and your ideas... DEV is open source and we want to be as transparent as possible. That being said, can you let us know:

  • What are some things about the home page that you dislike the most?
  • What are some things about the home page that you like a lot?
  • What did you wish the home page did more of?

Thank you so much for your help. We’re going to take your feedback and make DEV a better place for us all! ❤️ Expect another follow-up post soon with more details about Home Page work.

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Lisa Sy (she/her)

🎉 Super excited and jazzed about this!

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K

I have to admit, somehow the eclectic style of this site (and its buttons, haha) made it likeable.

It has something of "we don't focus on graphical shenanigans, we improve real UX!"

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Giorgos Kontopoulos 👀

The graphical shenanigans are part of the real UX ;-)
but because everything else seemed to click we have stayed !!!

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Jacob Herrington (he/him)

I think we certainly want to maintain the soul of the site, but it might be nice if new users could figure out how to find a podcast or browse listings. :P

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K

Yes, that's something I'm looking forward to :)

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Daniel Brady

We have podcasts here?!

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Jacob Herrington (he/him)

dev.to/pod/

Mine is listed at dev.to/devpathfm :D

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Daniel Brady

Totally agree about liking the eclectic style,but for me I like it because it gives the place a "made by hands" feel to it.

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Paweł Ludwiczak

Totally agree, the "imperfect" UI and kinda "glitch" style is what makes DEV so unique (visually). We obviously don't want to kill that but at the same time I think we will want to find a right balance between style like this AND readability & usability.

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Jess Lee

The image of all our buttons really says a lot 😅

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Paweł Ludwiczak

Hey, I've got more examples like this :d

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Florian Rand

Can't wait to see more of them!

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Nick Taylor

Excited to be working on homepage makeover with y'all. 🔥

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Victor Osório

If I have already read a post, why see it again in my "timeline"?

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Jacob Herrington (he/him)

I wish there were more buttons on the homepage!!

/sarcasm

I really like the visual comparing how many competing styles we have around the site.

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Tori Crawford

I really love that y'all are asking the community for their opinions. We definitely won't all agree on the design of the homepage, but it's amazing that y'all include us. ❤️ Anyways, here is my input:

I like...

  • the 3 column set-up.
  • seeing the company sponsors in a column. I feel like most sites list them in the footer with small text.

I've noticed inconsistencies with...

  • the right column. The "newest listings" section has borders around every listing whereas when I look at the different sections for the tags that I follow there is only an outside border.

I hope this helps even just a tiny bit!!

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Paweł Ludwiczak

That's very helpful, thanks!

And yes, with this post we wanna establish some sort of a communication channel with the community, not only for this project but for future ones as well. And you're 100% right we will not always agree on everything - sometimes we will have to make some calls that some people won't like. I think it's important to understand that we won't consider the community to be our "client" that we will be working for BUT more a team member that can give us some good feedback and ideas.

As designers we will have to filter signal from noise which is not very easy thing to do. On one hand we would love to please everyone but on the other hand it's simply not possible because "community" is not a one person.

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olistik

What are some things about the home page that you dislike the most?

The fact that it's not easy to identify the purpose of the areas in the sidebars at first glance. They look too similar to each other and this requires me to scan a lot of content.

What are some things about the home page that you like a lot?

Content is given a lot of importance.

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Florian Rand • Edited

Hey Pawel, first of all, in my humble opinion, I believe that it is better asking for things that "work or don't work". I strongly believe that asking and using like or dislike in the same sentence tend to follow with not very good feedback. I'm one of those designers against the word "like", sorry!

That being said, @jess hit the spot. Nevertheless, I don't see it as a major problem. The main question that comes to mind is why so many different kinds of buttons and are they all necessary?

Explaining with words is going to be difficult, so I made this pretty fast, bare with me, I did it really quickly! but you can have an idea about it.

mock

Maybe using collapsed components, with a little bigger box and bigger typography can help unclutter the UI and help navigation. It's the first idea that came to mind. (Also aligned my profile card with the first post, that way the empty space left and right helps that center nav with the feed and days of weeks, etc);

Hope it helps, and again, sorry for the quick dirty mock ;)

(Edit: Uploaded a less shameful mock, but forgot to include the sponsors on it, but I swear they were there! 😅).

(EDIT 2: As others pointed out, the eclectic "style" of DEV it's part of its brand, and I really love it! I'm sure you guys will do a great job with the new redesign :D)

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Paweł Ludwiczak

I believe that it is better asking for things that "work or don't work". I strongly believe that asking and using like or dislike in the same sentence tend to follow with not very good feedback.

Yea, I tend to agree. Although feedback so far has been great soooo 🤷‍♂️


Your mockup is perfectly fine, thank you for spending time on it - visualizing ideas always helps.

Maybe using collapsed components, with a little bigger box and bigger typography can help unclutter the UI and help navigation.

The left sidebar now reminds me a bit desktop twitter - which I think is good. I like decluttering it and collapsing "my tags".

I have similar feeling about right sidebar but we also have to keep in mind that we want people to discover new content (not only for of sake of discoverability but simply engagement == money). So we definitely don't want to hide/collapse all sidebar content by default, but I think we have to do some juggling here anyway.

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Florian Rand

Totally agree Pawel, happy to be wrong!!

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Daniel Brady • Edited

One thing I don't like: clicking my face makes the world go dark. I'm not sure why, but it's a bit jarring. I do this at least once a day, expecting that my click will take me to my profile or dashboard or something related to me, but all it does is turn out the lights. 🤪
Clicking user face makes everything go dark

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Shannon Crabill

I appreciate the land of 1000 button styles. :)

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Daniel Brady

I like the small profile section on the top left side bar:

And I prefer it over the one in the site header. But I almost never use it, because the site header is where I see notification badges, and I'm more likely to be clicking around over there so I end up clicking my other face, the one in the header, every time.

I guess they fight for attention.

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Shannon Crabill

I feel like the key links section is buried and could possibly be combined with the profile / hamburger menu.

In my case, I often find myself looking for that page that lists all the dev.to formatting tags. It is under FAQ? It is, but I wouldn't expect it to be there. Maybe it's own content editor / how to guide link that is accessible from the home page.

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Tavon • Edited

What did you wish the home page did more of?

I wish the homepage would default to showing me a feed of My Tags, as opposed to everything. I think that's my only ask.

What are some things about the home page that you like a lot?

I like that #help is visible on the sidebar.

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Arit Developer

This is so exciting!!!! (runs around the room in a positive frenzy)

💃🏾 💃🏾 💃🏾 💃🏾 💃🏾