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Tell me some useless (or useful) software trivia

Ben Halpern on June 23, 2019

Tell me a factoid I might not know about. It could be some weird edge case, a moment in history, or little known reasons for why some software behaves the way it does.

David Wickes • Jun 23 '19

From the top of my head:

C, as in the language, stands for Christopher.
D in MS-DOS originally stood for Dirty.
We call anonymous functions 'lambdas' either because the Greek letter was easier to print than a hat, or because someone played eenie-meenie-minie-mo.
Ken Iverson was able to get IBM to build a whole new printer, with new characters on it, to write his APL programming language.
The first programming language used on a Unix machine was dc, a stack based Reverse Polish calculator still present on Linux/Mac today.
Type M-x doctor in Emacs to get access to a Rogerian psychotherapist.
The QWERTY keyboard layout was designed to slow down your typing
The reason keyboard rows are offset is to allow the hammers on a typewriter to fit inbetween them.
The Caps Lock key only moved to its current location in 1984 to satisfy the increasing number of secretaries using computer keyboards. It used to be Control.

... I'll have a think and come back ...

Ken Bellows • Jun 23 '19

The QWERTY keyboard layout was designed to slow down your typing

This one seems to be an urban legend, probably not actually true
smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/fa...

David Wickes • Jun 24 '19

That's fun! Although I'm not sure if it's any better to know that QWERTY is an efficiency hack for transcribing telegrams from Morse.

Ken Bellows • Jun 23 '19 • Edited

We call anonymous functions 'lambdas' either because the Greek letter was easier to print than a hat, or because someone played eenie-meenie-minie-mo

Can you elaborate on this one? "Lambdas" are named after the lambda calculus, which originated in the 1930s... Is the stuff about hats and eenie-meenie related to the name of the lambda calculus?

David Wickes • Jun 24 '19

Willingly. You'll find most of it on the Wikipedia page under History, but in brief:

either Alonzo Church picked a random Greek letter, in his own words by eenie-meenie.
or he started with a 'hat' over a variable - like ê - which got shifted to the left to become an upside down V. Which looks like a capital lambda, and so it was lowercased.

David Taitingfong • Jun 23 '19

I was informed that C was named so because it came after the B language (made by Bell Labs) - where did this Christopher thing come from?

David Wickes • Jun 24 '19 • Edited

So B came from BCPL, the Basic Combined Programming Language at Cambridge. Which came from the (unimplemented) CPL - Combined Programming Language.

The C also stood for Cambridge. But it was also known as Christopher's Programming Language after one of its inventors, Christopher Strachey.

source: The Art of Unix Programming

johnfound • Jun 23 '19

The Caps Lock key only moved to its current location in 1984 to satisfy the increasing number of secretaries using computer keyboards. It used to be Control.

I always remap caplock as a Ctrl in my keyboards. Very comfortable.

David Wickes • Jun 23 '19

I always remap caplock as a Ctrl in my keyboards.

If you don't YOU'RE A MONSTER!

Riccardo Bernardini • Jun 24 '19

Actually, on my ezbook (with US keyboard) I remapped the Caps Lock to the "Compose" key in order to type accented letters (for everything else there is Shift-Ctrl-u + unicode) :-)

João Ferreira • Jun 27 '19

I'm a monster, cause I only use Shift (with little finger)

Kasper Meyer • Jun 23 '19

This one blew me away when I first read it years ago.

Behold: The case of the 500-mile email

ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html

João Ferreira • Jun 27 '19

This is gold

johnfound • Jun 27 '19

That is good, but you MUST read the FAQ to this story. There is a link in the header.

Luke Westby • Jun 23 '19 • Edited

Microsoft Excel originally (and perhaps still?) treated the year 1900 as a leap year in its date computations even though it is not a leap year. It was an intentional choice. The existing spreadsheet software with the greatest market share at the time of Excel’s release was Lotus 1-2-3. Lotus 1-2-3 had the same behavior via a legitimate bug. By replicating the behavior, Excel could import Lotus 1-2-3’s file format with no unexpected outcomes for the user. This made the switch to Excel seamless and it quickly dominated the market.

Howard Jess • Jun 26 '19

Nice note. In the 80s, I worked on a 3D spreadsheet program named BitsCalc (later BoeingCalc). We inserted the same behavior, for the same reason.

Peter Kim Frank • Jun 24 '19

Fascinating!

Molly Struve (she/her) • Jun 23 '19

Molly Struve 🦄

@molly_struve

Do you know why @elastic originally choose port 5601 for Kibana?

Bc if you flip and reverse it, it spells LOGS!!!!! 💥

16:59 PM - 28 Mar 2019

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Sajjad Heydari • Jun 23 '19

Do you know lisp uses () instead of [] solely because the keyboard that was used to develop its first versions had a problem with [ key?

Ryland G • Jun 23 '19 • Edited

When Apple acquired NEXT in 1996, they mostly did it so Jobs could return to his previous role. But Apple/Jobs also saw the NEXT OS as a serious improvement over the existing Mac OS.

Because of this, Apple chose to build the next OS on top of NEXT. In fact, up until recently (might even still be the case) if you peeked into the source code of OSX you would still find original unmodified NEXT files. So in some ways if you’re running OSX you are still running part of NEXT.

Fernando B 🚀 • Jun 23 '19

That's why tons of classes have NS in the beginning, Next Step.

Aaron Powell • Jun 23 '19

Heres a few of mine:

JavaScript has both +0 and -0
The original version of the .NET framework was written in Java
C# is actually an implementation of an ECMA spec
PowerPoint is Turing-complete (along with a surprising list of other things)

Andrew Wooldridge • Jun 25 '19

Magic: The Gathering is Turing-complete: toothycat.net/~hologram/Turing/

Casey Brooks • Jun 24 '19

In 2009, a carrier pigeon was faster and more reliable at data transfers than the Internet in South Africa.

Source: wired.com/2009/09/in-africa-a-pige...

Jonathan Kuhl • Jun 24 '19 • Edited

Binary isn't the only system. A bi-quinary system was also proposed that would have, due to the wavelength nature of electricity, given us the ability to have a decimal system in our computers. Five levels of voltage above ground, five levels of voltage below. However, such a system was complex, power-hungry, and unreliable due to quantum mechanics (if the wavelengths were too small, it got difficult to precisely measure which level its at, and if the wavelengths are too big, it was too energy inefficient.)

youtube.com/watch?v=thrx3SBEpL8

Alex Patterson • Jun 23 '19

Did you know the inventor of Atari also invented Chuck E Cheese 🤯

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Bush...

Stephen Chiang • Jun 24 '19

The hashtag/pound sign, #, is originally known as the octothorpe.

johnfound • Jun 25 '19

Actually, in my youth, we called it "trace" (and I still use it sometimes) because the TRACE command in Apple II BASIC, outputs the line numbers prefixed with #.

I learned much later that in some places # is used instead of № character.

James McPherson • Jun 25 '19

WellActually that's the proper name for it, from a typesetting point of view.

Luke Westby • Jun 23 '19

Wi-Fi doesn't officially stand for anything and is just a pun on the abbreviation "hi-fi"

Mpho Mphego • Jun 24 '19

Lies it stands for Wireless Infidelity

rhymes • Jun 24 '19

In 2009-2010 Google tried to merge a separate version of Python inside the official one but didn't ultimately succeed.

The story around it was interesting for a few reasons:

Google at the time was really deep into Python, they were using it for all sorts of things and they employed a few core teams devs, Guido Van Rossum (the creator) included
"Unladen swallow" (the code name of this branch), was used internally and promised some performance improvements
Among those improvements there was a JIT compiler (Ruby 2.6 for example has merged an experimental JIT compiler, ten years later)

The reason it failed:

they thought they could reach 5x speed in single threaded cases but actually they were around 1.x kind of increase
The community already had a JIT enabled project, PyPy, which was a separate effort
Developers were not excited about it and also assumed that Google would maintain the code for ever and ever (honestly, nobody wants to merge an insanely huge patch that requires a lot of work to adjust in an already successful project)

So, it was a good idea, but it technically didn't work the way they tried it and there was not enough support around it to keep at it for a long time and hopefully improve the performance gains.

I think this story mostly speaks of what it means to mantain a hugely successful open source project and the relationship with contributors, even if they are a big company ;-)

If anyone is interested, the details and the story are here: python.org/dev/peps/pep-3146/

Luke Westby • Jun 23 '19 • Edited

document.all instanceof HTMLAllCollection;
// => true
typeof document.all === 'undefined';
// => true

James McPherson • Jun 25 '19

Americans pronounce "cache" as "kaysh", but Australians are more likely to pronounce it like "cash".

Oh, and UK/Eire-denizens pronounce "router" like "rooter" - but that's got certain connotations here in AU/NZ ;)

briwa • Jun 24 '19

In some programming languages, 0.1 + 0.2 doesn't always equal to 0.3. It would give you 0.30000000000000004 or something along the lines. In fact, you can try it out in your browser for Javascript at least.

For more info: 0.30000000000000004.com/ and also there's a list of the programming languages where this phenomenon occurs.

Fernando B 🚀 • Jun 23 '19

Do you know this exists? Is a cool flowchart visual program developed by USAF. raptor.martincarlisle.com

And this is useless but funny, have you ever read any discord changelog?

I'm sure you know the arrow in the fuel gauge pointing towards the fuel tank.

David J Eddy • Jun 23 '19

That Raptor page sent me right back to 1995.

Fernando B 🚀 • Jun 23 '19

Lmao, is stuck in the last century. Don't get fooled by that, Raptor is an awesome program.

Max Ong Zong Bao • Jun 24 '19

Alan Turning helps to lay the foundation of the software industry & AI during world war 2 as a codebreaker of the enigma machine.

Autumn • Jun 24 '19

Wat is a talk on all the weird things in programming, the things that make you say
"Wat"
destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
I highly reccomend this :)

Benjamin Ewert • Jun 26 '19

If you allow me to blunty borrow a quote:

„Below are the average carbon footprints of different emails:

An average spam email: 0.3 g CO2e (carbon dioxide equivalent)

A standard email: 4 g CO2e

An email with “long and tiresome attachments”: 50 g CO2e“

Not sure if the numbers are correct, but I recently heard about that on the local radio too.

Source: carbonliteracy.com/the-carbon-cost...

Karl N. Redman • Jun 24 '19

Tesla invented the radio.

Julio Lozovei • Jun 24 '19

A stolen Tesla would be called a "Edison"?

Karl N. Redman • Jun 25 '19

Ha! That's probably about right :)

Ben Butler • Jun 25 '19

Tesla (the band, a great band, BTW, still touring and still great live) released an album called "The Great Radio Controversy".

Karl N. Redman • Jun 26 '19 • Edited

They did! I owned that album when it came out. Great songs. Great album. Great band!

tony kwong • Jun 24 '19

back in the day, you have a few models of ibm printers distinguished mostly by duty cycle. you customize via print chains that the operators can change based on what kind of material is being printed. it is possible that an APL chain was manufactured (I've never seen one in the wild, while working with ibm mainframes from 60's to 90's). what IS common is the APL typeball for the Selectric family of typewriters and teletypewriters. I even had one for a few years even though I was only an occasional user of APL, then it got lost in an office move.
so it is more akin to GM creating a special tire rim than a special truck model.

Luke Westby • Jun 23 '19

The software for the robots in Westworld is written with React.js

Oleg Aleksandrov • Jun 23 '19 • Edited

Microprocessor MicroVAX 3000 и 6200 were containing a message for USSR engineers on Russian. That message on English - "when you care enough to steal the very best".

Vuild • Jun 23 '19

Random (may or may not be interesting, semi-related to @taillogs )
youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs
youtube.com/watch?v=Udi0rk3jZYM
appleinsider.com/articles/18/08/06...
collection.sciencemuseum.org.uk/ob...
telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/ho...
seforum.se/2019/01/08/the-history-...
renderman.pixar.com the software that makes the toys into a story.

Matt Ellen-Tsivintzeli • Jun 26 '19

TIL toLocaleTimeString in Edge returns a string with directionality characters and so can't be used to set the value of an input element of type time.