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I was not into password managers until I used Bitwarden. It's open source and works perfectly, chrome extension, app on Android/iOS. Saves me time and headache remembering passwords and secure notes.
+1 for bitwarden too - apps and extensions for almost everything, cloud backups (where your data is encrypted locally first), open source, and free
It's great! But what do you think of it as being developed by one guy?
I like Bitwarden as well and I'm using it as my only password manager. I tried using Dashlane but it isn't as good as Bitwarden. There are others like 1Password, but I trust Bitwarden more since it's free and open source.
A user from dev.to told me about Bitwarden. Highly recommend it also.
Typically
password123. That way I don't need a tool to remember anything.I use hunter2
Hopefully noone sees that
I just see ******** when you type that.
Oh, good. It still works
Thank you both for throwback laugh! π
This is not a safe password. Please try
Mb2.r5oHf-0tinstead.According to IT experts it is the most secure password!
(Source: the-postillon.com/2017/03/mb2r5ohf...)
I seriously hope this is facetious, because this is the worst possible way of handling things.
Don't worry, it doesn't work. Most websites require an upper case letter and a symbol as well.
Password_123works much better.And yes, we're joking.
KeePass on my Windows computers, along with Keepass2Android on my phone, and sync via DropBox / Google Drive (password database file is encrypted by KeePass).
Both are free and open source.
This has worked really well for years.
Ports are available for Linux, Mac, IOS, etc.
This is exactly what I do too except that I use KeePassXC which started as a community fork of KeePassX.
Keepassx is great, I use it for ssh keys with its embedded ssh agent and 2f@ secret, that I store along with qrcode for quick setup.
I wanted to do this but I always feared one thing: Does this mean that if I update one password somewhere, I have to keep downloading the files in all clients I need? So, if I update one password, I need to update all copies in all clients?
Yes, you do.
Those are passwords manager, non sync client : I like the Unix-like philosophy of doing one thing.
I keep my encrypted password db in sync with gogole drive, but you can use whatever you want.
I know people who are sending themselves the db every time they update something, ugly for me, but it it works for then then +1
Like @dbh mentions in another thread, storing the Vault file in Dropbox or another similar cloud-based folder can be a solution for this. The file is encrypted at rest, so it's a fairly safe thing to do. Then the only place you need to sync it occasionally is your phone!
Same! I use Dropbox for synchronizing the master file. I can then access it from KeePass (or some variant ) on a Mac, 1 windows laptop, and a PowerBook laptop, and a Linux box.
I used to use LastPass, now I switched to Bitwarden also thanks to this thread:
Password manager recommendations?
Jess Lee γ» Nov 20 '18 γ» 1 min read
Me too. Though after exporting everything to Bitwarden, I kept Lastpass on my work machine, just to try to consciously keep them separated from my personal passwords in a more definite way than just having different folders.
Where I'm working we use a light bitwarden server self-hosted
I did the same thing, Bitwarden just works a lot more consistently than LastPass ever did for me.
I never trust password management tools.
They might collect my passwords and sell those info for some other parties...
Or worse, they might get hacked and all my accounts across the internet would be exposed.
I use simple passwords like (123456) for stuff I don't care about, and different passwords for accounts that I care about.
@rhymes
@kriscius
Open source (esp. cloud solution) means that I should roll my own compilation/server for the app, cuz it's easy to provide an open source app and ship some extra code (that collects your passwords) with the binary.
So no thanks, I don't really wanna go through that hustle.
Not really Yaser. Open source means just that, also we are not talking about some random npm package with crypto mining hidden inside, we're talking about tools that are peer verified by security firms: help.bitwarden.com/article/why-sho...
The code is open source but you can just use the cloud version.
They don't store your passwords, they store the encrypted version and the master key never leaves your device.
My bitwarden account syncs on various browsers and two devices. 1password and the others work just like that.
For why you should use a password manager and not your memory troyhunt.com/password-managers-don...
Troy Hunt is also the person behind Have I Been Pwned, a tool to check if your email is part of various security breaches haveibeenpwned.com/
Its DB of 500 million leaked passwords is also exposed as an API and currently used by various sites to bar people from using leaked passwords again.
Fun stuff π
Yep, and I'm not really into self-hosting my own Bitwarden (which seems pretty safe).
The problem is that you take their words for granted, call me paranoid, but I never trust these words:
Why are you providing me the service then? Nothing comes for free dude!
Yes, Troy is pretty popular in the security scene, but again once I heard Gary Vee saying that we (humans) can sniff if someone is selling us something, this is what I mean:
troyhunt.com/have-i-been-pwned-is-...
Bitwarden, like many others, has a free plan and a couple of paid plans that add features like secure team-shared credentials (think developers sharing servers root passwords in an organization), encrypted file storage and security audit logs. As @rhymes said you don't have to take THEIR word for granted, they have been audited by security experts and deemed acceptable. They publish peer-reviewed papers about their crypto setup and have a good reputation.
If this is not enough for you, that's totally fine. But you're really falling deep into paranoia because no real reason for not trusting them has been found yet.
Yeah, the risk of that happening is way lower than you reusing a cracked/leaked password.
Sounds like the thing that would make you happy (and safe) is keepass, synchronised in a way you feel comfortable with.
I agree that we can't/shouldn't trust the tools, but the question remains - how do you manage the passwords for the accounts you care about? Either your life is incredibly simple or you have incredibly good memory. (Well, come to think of it, either case would be quite admirable to me.)
Maybe I have a good memory, and also I help that with the choice of what I call simple-sentence-passwords like
YaserIsHere!I forget some passwords for stuff I don't use often, say DockerHub account, so I simply restore that password by email in seconds.
Use an open source one that encrypts everything
I use Lastpass and their identities feature. This lets me keep home and work (and different workplaces) separate so I don't have to worry about logging in with the wrong account. When combined with the browsers people feature I can easily jump between the identities without having to worry about losing my place with what I'm doing.
I have pass on my PCs, which sync with an encrypted Keybase repository. My phones use an Android client for pass called Android-Password-Store which I am a maintainer for. Keybase's git protocol hasn't been ported into a standalone JNI library yet so my phones pull the local git repository from my desktop. It sounds like a lot but it's actually pretty straightforward!
I use pass along with tomb. Great tool!
Important ones in my head, others saved to Chrome. 2FA where possible. I believe the best password security is where you don't have to enter it at all so I'm really looking forward to a time when fingerprint etc is mainstream. Right now it's just Google who has that.
Fingerprint is not much more secure than a password though, it can be lifted and you never change it in your life, ever.
It's handier for your personal device but biometrics on a mass scale are more about tracking people than they are about providing infallible security.
Not quite, the fingerprint doesn't go anywhere from your device. Check out WebAuthn, it's a new W3C standard w3.org/TR/webauthn/.
Yes, for device security is OK. what if you're logging in from a computer or a device without fingerprint reader?
You get the prompt on your fingerprint device. When I login to gmail on my laptop, I get the sign-in prompt on my phone where I have to verify with the fingerprint if logging into some unknown device.
Got it, thanks. It works like a 2fa basically
Yep, kinda, but better.
I am quite happy with the 1password solution + complex passwords.
To remind the master password, I am using a password card (passwordcard.org/en), with extra char. that are only in my head.
Just three days ago I kept receiving prompts to confirm that I'm logging in to a new device, It was obvious someone was trying to log in to my account.
I immediately installed dashlane and changed my email and online banking passwords from what I always used to a generated one
Dashlane is one of the more expensive ones for no real good reason. (Imo), I would recommend bitwarden or 1pass or LastPass (lastpass is mostly free actually now, but their support is meh)
I didn't notice. I also want to try our their vpn and see if it's any good
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